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    ashuras
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    Jews completely hide Kainain genealogy in fact was cursed. That’s the reason why KENITES and Melchizedek don’t any .

    #53840
    Bradly
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    1. ashuras wrote:

    The Urantia Book (sometimes called The Urantia Papers or The Fifth Epochal Revelation) is a spiritual, philosophical, and religious book that originated in Chicago, Illinois, United States sometime between 1924 and 1955. The authorship remains a matter of debate. It has received various degrees of interest ranging from praise to criticism for its religious and science-related content, its unusual length, and the unusual names and origins of the authors named within the book. What ??? 😃 That’s sound Essenes Jews fairy tale

     

    Bradly here:  Regardless of one’s opinions about the Urantia Papers, nonetheless it is the text we share here in study together.

    So…if you are not here to discover, share, and study the Papers, then I am done here….

    And I will leave you to your personal agenda ashuras…

    …best wishes.

    :-)

     

     

    #53841
    Mara
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    Jews completely hide Kainain genealogy in fact was cursed. That’s the reason why KENITES and Melchizedek don’t any .

    Isn’t cursing people and/or calling people cursed a way of controlling people? It is also a way of making one group of people fear another group of people.

    #53842
    Mara
    Mara
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    For example:

    86:2.6 [Part III]
    The savage looked upon all nature as alive, as possessed by something. Civilized man still kicks and curses those inanimate objects which get in his way and bump him. Primitive man never regarded anything as accidental; always was everything intentional. To primitive man the domain of fate, the function of luck, the spirit world, was just as unorganized and haphazard as was primitive society. Luck was looked upon as the whimsical and temperamental reaction of the spirit world; later on, as the humor of the gods.
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    87:6.13 [Part III]
    But man did not stop with ghost coercion; through religious ritual and other practices he was soon attempting to compel spirit action. Exorcism was the employment of one spirit to control or banish another, and these tactics were also utilized for frightening ghosts and spirits. The dual-spiritism concept of good and bad forces offered man ample opportunity to attempt to pit one agency against another, for, if a powerful man could vanquish a weaker one, then certainly a strong spirit could dominate an inferior ghost. Primitive cursing was a coercive practice designed to overawe minor spirits. Later this custom expanded into the pronouncing of curses upon enemies.
    And:
    96:7.6 [Part III]
    In Palestine the wisdom and all-pervasiveness of God was often grasped but seldom his love and mercy. The Yahweh of these times « sends evil spirits to dominate the souls of his enemies »; he prospers his own and obedient children, while he curses and visits dire judgments upon all others. « He disappoints the devices of the crafty; he takes the wise in their own deceit. »
    #53843
    Mara
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    Regarding Yahweh of those olden records:
    74:8.10 [Part III]
    Jewish tradition became crystallized about Moses, and because he endeavored to trace the lineage of Abraham back to Adam, the Jews assumed that Adam was the first of all mankind. Yahweh was the creator, and since Adam was supposed to be the first man, he must have made the world just prior to making Adam. And then the tradition of Adam’s six days got woven into the story, with the result that almost a thousand years after Moses’ sojourn on earth the tradition of creation in six days was written out and subsequently credited to him.
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    94:11.12 [Part III]
    While this idea of Absolute Deity never found great popular favor with the peoples of Asia, it did enable the intellectuals of these lands to unify their philosophy and to harmonize their cosmology. The concept of the Buddha Absolute is at times quasi-personal, at times wholly impersonal — even an infinite creative force. Such concepts, though helpful to philosophy, are not vital to religious development. Even an anthropomorphic Yahweh is of greater religious value than an infinitely remote Absolute of Buddhism or Brahmanism.
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    95:7.2 [Part III]
    Not even in China or Rome did the Melchizedek teachings fail more completely than in this desert region so very near Salem itself. Long after the majority of the peoples of the Orient and Occident had become respectively Buddhist and Christian, the desert of Arabia continued as it had for thousands of years. Each tribe worshiped its olden fetish, and many individual families had their own household gods. Long the struggle continued between Babylonian Ishtar, Hebrew Yahweh, Iranian Ahura, and Christian Father of the Lord Jesus Christ. Never was one concept able fully to displace the others.
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    95:7.5 [Part III]
    There was only one factor of a tribal, racial, or national nature about the primitive and unorganized beliefs of the desert, and that was the peculiar and general respect which almost all Arabian tribes were willing to pay to a certain black stone fetish in a certain temple at Mecca. This point of common contact and reverence subsequently led to the establishment of the Islamic religion. What Yahweh, the volcano spirit, was to the Jewish Semites, the Kaaba stone became to their Arabic cousins.
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    96:1.11 [Part III]
    Up to about 2000 B.C., Mount Sinai was intermittently active as a volcano, occasional eruptions occurring as late as the time of the sojourn of the Israelites in this region. The fire and smoke, together with the thunderous detonations associated with the eruptions of this volcanic mountain, all impressed and awed the Bedouins of the surrounding regions and caused them greatly to fear Yahweh. This spirit of Mount Horeb later became the god of the Hebrew Semites, and they eventually believed him to be supreme over all other gods.
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    96:1.12 [Part III]
    The Canaanites had long revered Yahweh, and although many of the Kenites believed more or less in El Elyon, the supergod of the Salem religion, a majority of the Canaanites held loosely to the worship of the old tribal deities. They were hardly willing to abandon their national deities in favor of an international, not to say an interplanetary, God. They were not universal-deity minded, and therefore these tribes continued to worship their tribal deities, including Yahweh and the silver and golden calves which symbolized the Bedouin herders’ concept of the spirit of the Sinai volcano.
    #53844
    Mara
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    I think fear and anxiety loomed large in the minds of olden peoples.  Life was not easy.  They wrote their olden records, but not without fearful restraints, as portrayed here:

    92:2.3 [Part III]
    When modern man wonders at the presentation of so much in the scriptures of different religions that may be regarded as obscene, he should pause to consider that passing generations have feared to eliminate what their ancestors deemed to be holy and sacred. A great deal that one generation might look upon as obscene, preceding generations have considered a part of their accepted mores, even as approved religious rituals. A considerable amount of religious controversy has been occasioned by the never-ending attempts to reconcile olden but reprehensible practices with newly advanced reason, to find plausible theories in justification of creedal perpetuation of ancient and outworn customs.
    #53845
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    Vulcan (Latin: Vulcanus, in archaically retained spelling also Volcanus, both pronounced [wʊɫˈkaːnʊs]) is the god of fire[4] including the fire of volcanoes, deserts, metalworking and the forge in Sabine[5] and ancient Roman religion and myth. He is often depicted with a blacksmith’s hammer.[6] The Vulcanalia was the annual festival held August 23 in his honor. His Greek counterpart is Hephaestus, the god of fire and smithery. In Etruscan religion, he is identified with Sethians.

     

     

    Vulcan god or god Fire was Agni or Varuna or Moloch . Nothing to do with Yahweh.

     

     

    The Vulcan god was certainly not a god of Cannanites. It’s been introduced by SETHITES KENITES to CANNAN.

    Now it’s very clear to me where come from Urantia book, and the purpose.

     

    KAINAIN ancestors of SETHITES he really was cursed for what he done ,for that sin. The curse follows his offspring.

    the offense of the Amorite is not yet over. Rulers of Amorites were Semitic Sethians.

    The Jews were fully aware of the curse of KAINAIN and his descendants. they erased his family tree and he was also a great heathen. And how would they explain that the religion of El Eloyin and the Religion of Satan arose from the same race?

    #53846
    Bradly
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    Hooey!

     

    Religion of Satan??

     

    Holy Moly…

    #53847
    Mara
    Mara
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    . . .is the god of fire[4] including the fire of volcanoes. . . .

    See this note on fire worship.

    69:6.6 [Part III]
    The early myths about how fire came down from the gods grew out of the observations of fire caused by lightning. These ideas of supernatural origin led directly to fire worship, and fire worship led to the custom of « passing through fire, » a practice carried on up to the times of Moses. And there still persists the idea of passing through fire after death. The fire myth was a great bond in early times and still persists in the symbolism of the Parsees.
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    88:1.2 [Part III]
    The first fetishes were peculiarly marked pebbles, and « sacred stones » have ever since been sought by man; a string of beads was once a collection of sacred stones, a battery of charms. Many tribes had fetish stones, but few have survived as have the Kaaba and the Stone of Scone. Fire and water were also among the early fetishes, and fire worship, together with belief in holy water, still survives.
    People back then didn’t know what a volcano was or an earthquake.
    96:1.11 [Part III]
    Up to about 2000 B.C., Mount Sinai was intermittently active as a volcano, occasional eruptions occurring as late as the time of the sojourn of the Israelites in this region. The fire and smoke, together with the thunderous detonations associated with the eruptions of this volcanic mountain, all impressed and awed the Bedouins of the surrounding regions and caused them greatly to fear Yahweh. This spirit of Mount Horeb later became the god of the Hebrew Semites, and they eventually believed him to be supreme over all other gods.
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    96:4.5 [Part III]
    It does not appear that Moses would ever have succeeded in the establishment of his somewhat advanced ceremonial worship and in keeping his followers intact for a quarter of a century had it not been for the violent eruption of Horeb during the third week of their worshipful sojourn at its base. « The mountain of Yahweh was consumed in fire, and the smoke ascended like the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mountain quaked greatly. » In view of this cataclysm it is not surprising that Moses could impress upon his brethren the teaching that their God was « mighty, terrible, a devouring fire, fearful, and all-powerful. »
    Moses did his best. He was a great organizer.
    96:5.5 [Part III]
    But it was truly pitiful to watch this great mind of Moses trying to adapt his sublime concept of El Elyon, the Most High, to the comprehension of the ignorant and illiterate Hebrews. To his assembled leaders he thundered, « The Lord your God is one God; there is none beside him »; while to the mixed multitude he declared, « Who is like your God among all the gods? » Moses made a brave and partly successful stand against fetishes and idolatry, declaring, « You saw no similitude on the day that your God spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire. » He also forbade the making of images of any sort.
    #53848
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    ashuras
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    Cette réponse a été signalée comme ayant un contenu inapproprié.

    Are you serious? 😃😂

    #53849
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    ashuras
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    Do you know what I’m talking about at all?

    #53850
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    ashuras
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    Cette réponse a été signalée comme ayant un contenu inapproprié.

    It’s really interesting all this Protestant or Urantia was founded by super rich Jews or Kenite Jews with co-operations of Freemasons .😂

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    Cette réponse a été signalée comme ayant un contenu inapproprié.

    God blessed them prosperity in material and spiritual things. 😂

    #53852
    Mara
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    Do you know what I’m talking about at all?

    I think you are trying to convert the participants in this particular conversation to you point of view.  At the top of every single page of this forum it says, « Fostering study of The Urantia Book and dissemination of its teachings ». There is plenty to talk about.

    You have written and posted words antithetical to the study of the UB. You persist in posting and re-posting your unusual geneologies which also include a few of your strange conclusions and theories.

    If you are done with the UB, maybe it’s time for you to move on. Personally, I’m interested in people who are also interested in studying the UB.

    #53853
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    Mark Kurtz
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    Mara is right ashras. This Forum is about studying Urantia Book contents and participants are expected to restrict comments here to that book. We are not studying other sources such as may be found on other websites or forum venues. The UB is a profound tome with great clarity and is good for humanity. This Forum chooses to study that book only; not other personalities. My take is there are no other so called « authorities » greater than the celestial team who brought us the UB.

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