Is there a difference between "entity" and "being"?

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  • #8383
    Brooklyn_born
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    If there is could someone explain the difference? thanks.

     

     

    BB

    #8385
    Bradly
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    Looking forward to the discussion.  A keyword search of « entity » reveals, I think, that all beings are entities but not all entities are beings.  Some are associations of beings.  And some beings, like mortals, have more than one entity – mind, soul, body, TA.  Some entities are functional by associative beings.  Perplexing and interesting….as usual BB!

    ;-)

    (112.6) 10:4.3 The Trinity is an association of infinite persons functioning in a nonpersonal capacity but not in contravention of personality. The illustration is crude, but a father, son, and grandson could form a corporate entity which would be nonpersonal but nonetheless subject to their personal wills.

    #8386
    Brooklyn_born
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    Looking forward to the discussion. A keyword search of “entity” reveals, I think, that all beings are entities but not all entities are beings. Some are associations of beings. And some beings, like mortals, have more than one entity – mind, soul, body, TA. Some entities are functional by associative beings. Perplexing and interesting….as usual BB! ;-) (112.6) 10:4.3 The Trinity is an association of infinite persons functioning in a nonpersonal capacity but not in contravention of personality. The illustration is crude, but a father, son, and grandson could form a corporate entity which would be nonpersonal but nonetheless subject to their personal wills.

     

    Thanks, Bradly, for shedding some light on this.  :good:

    BB

    #8387
    Mara
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    I wonder if the operative distinction is that beings have personality.  Entities do not?  Not sure.

    Th TA is an impersonal (prepersonal) entity.

     
    There are spirits: spirit entities, spirit presences, personal spirits, prepersonal spirits, superpersonal spirits, spirit existences, spirit personalities — but neither mortal language nor mortal intellect are adequate. We may however state that there are no personalities of « pure mind »; no entity has personality unless he is endowed with it by God who is spirit. Any mind entity that is not associated with either spiritual or physical energy is not a personality. But in the same sense that there are spirit personalities who have mind there are mind personalities who have spirit. Majeston and his associates are fairly good illustrations of mind-dominated beings, but there are better illustrations of this type of personality unknown to you. There are even whole unrevealed orders of such mind personalities, but they are always spirit associated. Certain other unrevealed creatures are what might be termed mindal- and physical-energy personalities. This type of being is nonresponsive to spirit gravity but is nonetheless a true personality — is within the Father’s circuit. (Paper 30)
    #8393
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    TUB
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    I would consider an entity a being. Not a personal being though. Maybe the only difference though, would be that we usually call someone who is personal a being, an animal is usually not called a being. Perhaps that is why the authors use the word entity and not being. The fact that the adjuster is called an entity probably has something to do with the fact it is not personal. But the adjuster is not non-personal. Its merely impersonal. Its still capable of Love. A nonpersonal entity would not be capable of love. The Trinity still has an attitude « totality attitude ». So I don’t think its non-personal.

    #8394
    Mara
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    I would consider an entity a being.

    I did find this which I read to mean that, upon reaching Paradise, the divine entity – TA plus soul plus personality – attains the source of all existence.

    Faith acts to release the superhuman activities of the divine spark, the immortal germ, that lives within the mind of man, and which is the potential of eternal survival. Plants and animals survive in time by the technique of passing on from one generation to another identical particles of themselves. The human soul (personality) of man survives mortal death by identity association with this indwelling spark of divinity, which is immortal, and which functions to perpetuate the human personality upon a continuing and higher level of progressive universe existence. The concealed seed of the human soul is an immortal spirit. The second generation of the soul is the first of a succession of personality manifestations of spiritual and progressing existences, terminating only when this divine entity attains the source of its existence, the personal source of all existence, God, the Universal Father.  (Paper 132)

    #8395
    Brooklyn_born
    Brooklyn_born
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    Very interesting ideas, Mara and TUB.

    BB

    #8396
    Brooklyn_born
    Brooklyn_born
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    Just to let you know, it was this passage that sparked the question for me…

    « …The Universal Father realizes in the fullness of the divine consciousness all the individual experience of the progressive struggles of the expanding minds and the ascending spirits of every entity, being, and personality of the whole evolutionary creation of time and space. And all this is literally true, for “in Him we all live and move and have our being.” »

    It seems that there is a distinction made between entity, being and personality.

    BB

    #8410
    Bonita
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    You picked a toughie BB.  The UB isn’t entirely clear on the subject.  But here’s what I understand so far, and none of it is set in stone.

    Entities, beings and personalities are all living (or semi-living) and are minded.  Personalities are the only ones who are personal and have volition.  Beings may have personalities, or they may not.  Entities are not personalities, but are associated with personalities.  And sometimes, TUB uses the words entity and being interchangeably.

    Examples of entities are: Thought Adjusters, the soul, the Trinity

    Examples of beings with personality are myriad, most of the beings mentioned in TUB have personality: human beings, Supreme Being, Universal Father, Infinite Spirit and Eternal Son, Seven Master Spirits, Creator Sons, Creator Spirits, among many, many other divine beings referred to as Deity.

    Examples of beings without personality are few:  the subordinate physical controllers such as Energy Transmitters, Primary and Secondary Associators, Frandalanks and Chronoldeks

    Still working on this.

    #8411
    Mara
    Mara
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    It seems that there is a distinction made between entity, being and personality.

    I think you are right.  Seems the Creative Mother Spirit of the Infinite Spirit is an entity until she has been trained in some manner.  (Paper 17)

    2. Preliminary Creatorship Training. During the long period of the preliminary training of a Michael Son in the organization and administration of universes, his future consort undergoes further development of entity and becomes group conscious of destiny. We do not know, but we suspect that such a group-conscious entity becomes space cognizant and begins that preliminary training requisite to the acquirement of spirit skill in her future work of collaboration with the complemental Michael in universe creation and administration.

     
    3. The Stage of Physical Creation. At the time the creatorship charge is administered to a Michael Son by the Eternal Son, the Master Spirit who directs the superuniverse to which this new Creator Son is destined gives expression to the « prayer of identification » in the presence of the Infinite Spirit; and for the first time, the entity of the subsequent Creative Spirit appears as differentiated from the person of the Infinite Spirit. And proceeding directly to the person of the petitioning Master Spirit, this entity is immediately lost to our recognition, becoming apparently a part of the person of this Master Spirit. The newly identified Creative Spirit remains with the Master Spirit until the moment of the departure of the Creator Son for the adventure of space; whereupon the Master Spirit commits the new Spirit consort to the keeping of the Creator Son, at the same time administering to the Spirit consort the charge of eternal fidelity and unending loyalty. And then occurs one of the most profoundly touching episodes which ever take place on Paradise. The Universal Father speaks in acknowledgment of the eternal union of the Creator Son and the Creative Spirit and in confirmation of the bestowal of certain joint powers of administration by the Master Spirit of superuniverse jurisdiction.

     

    #8416
    Brooklyn_born
    Brooklyn_born
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    Very interesting points, Bonita and Mara!

    Perhaps under certain conditions, progressively, entities develop into beings and beings develop into personalities. The sequence of the words in the reference may mean something.

    BB

    #8418
    Bonita
    Bonita
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    Perhaps under certain conditions, progressively, entities develop into beings and beings develop into personalities.

    As far as I know, only Thought Adjusters can be personalized.

    Then there’s this quote:  But never does the impersonal directly transmute to the personal. 0:5.4  

    #8419
    Brooklyn_born
    Brooklyn_born
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    As far as I know, only Thought Adjusters can be personalized. Then there’s this quote: But never does the impersonal directly transmute to the personal. 0:5.4

     

    Thanks for clearing that up.  I’ll throw that idea in the bin lmao

     

     

    BB

    #8421
    Mara
    Mara
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    . . . on the otherhand, regarding TAs (from Paper 107). . .

    Thought Adjusters are not personalities, but they are real entities; they are truly and perfectly individualized, although they are never, while indwelling mortals, actually personalized. Thought Adjusters are not true personalities; they are true realities, realities of the purest order known in the universe of universes — they are the divine presence. Though not personal, these marvelous fragments of the Father are commonly referred to as beings and sometimes, in view of the spiritual phases of their present ministry to mortals, as spirit entities.

     

    #8422
    Brooklyn_born
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    . . . on the otherhand, regarding TAs (from Paper 107). . .

    Thought Adjusters are not personalities, but they are real entities; they are truly and perfectly individualized, although they are never, while indwelling mortals, actually personalized. Thought Adjusters are not true personalities; they are true realities, realities of the purest order known in the universe of universes — they are the divine presence. Though not personal, these marvelous fragments of the Father are commonly referred to as beings and sometimes, in view of the spiritual phases of their present ministry to mortals, as spirit entities.

     

    This reference is a gem! Just as you said earlier, Mara, it may depend on the spiritual phase of their ministry or frame or reference?

     

    BB

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