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Here’s another interesting thing about the adjutants. The first adjutant, the spirit of intuition, assists the directional control creatures of Nebadon, the living compasses who activate microscopic bodies at the cellular level to always point north and south. This is fascinating because it is a magnetic sense, magnetoception, something we share with the animal world, and a very basic perception, or instinct, at that.
34:4.12-13 But it was of Salvington that John wrote: “And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices” — the universe broadcasts to the local systems. He also envisaged the directional control creatures of the local universe, the living compasses of the headquarters world. This directional control in Nebadon is maintained by the four control creatures of Salvington, who operate over the universe currents and are ably assisted by the first functioning mind-spirit, the adjutant of intuition, the spirit of “quick understanding.” But the description of these four creatures — called beasts — has been sadly marred; they are of unparalleled beauty and exquisite form.
The four points of the compass are universal and inherent in the life of Nebadon. All living creatures possess bodily units which are sensitive and responsive to these directional currents. These creature creations are duplicated on down through the universe to the individual planets and, in conjunction with the magnetic forces of the worlds, so activate the hosts of microscopic bodies in the animal organism that these direction cells ever point north and south. Thus is the sense of orientation forever fixed in the living beings of the universe. This sense is not wholly wanting as a conscious possession by mankind. These bodies were first observed on Urantia about the time of this narration.
How about answering these questions first?
So, we’re answering questions with questions. If I were to answer your questions and told you, “who I was”, “who I am” and “who I will be”, all this would generate more questions. Would it not serve a greater purpose for you to understand, who you are?
Midi, if you had just read another two paragraphs, you might have been able to answer your own question.
It is fascinating to see that many persons who read and reply to these forum posts really don’t read many of the responses posted. Where if you had you would not have posted the statement above. One of the first things learned in law school, when making a presentation in court, is to not ask questions that you don’t know the answer to. Even if the answer given is not as expected, the questioner will ascertain if the response is based on avoidance or an intention to deceive, or evade the question(s).
In the section which I introduced above, and was responded to with the next two paragraphs, if one read further as I suggested, where I gave a leading phrase, and sighted context, which seemed to fly over many heads, where the following is presented, for verification of having read this and many other sections.
(532.3)47:2.5 The Adjuster-indwelt children and youths on the finaliter world are also reared in families of five, ranging in ages from six to fourteen; approximately, these families consist of children whose ages are six, eight, ten, twelve, and fourteen. Any time after sixteen, if final choice has been made, they translate to the first mansion world and begin their Paradise ascent. Some make a choice before this age and go on to the ascension spheres, but very few children under sixteen years of age, as reckoned by Urantia standards, will be found on the mansion worlds.
(532.4)47:2.6 The guardian seraphim attend these youths in the probationary nursery on the finaliter world just as they spiritually minister to mortals on the evolutionary planets, while the faithful spornagia minister to their physical necessities. And so do these children grow up on the transition world until such time as they make their final choice.
(532.5)47:2.7 When material life has run its course, if no choice has been made for the ascendant life, or if these children of time definitely decide against the Havona adventure, death automatically terminates their probationary careers. There is no adjudication of such cases; there is no resurrection from such a second death. They simply become as though they had not been.
(532.6)47:2.8 But if they choose the Paradise path of perfection, they are immediately made ready for translation to the first mansion world, where many of them arrive in time to join their parents in the Havona ascent. After passing through Havona and attaining the Deities, these salvaged souls of mortal origin constitute the permanent ascendant citizenship of Paradise. These children who have been deprived of the valuable and essential evolutionary experience on the worlds of mortal nativity are not mustered into the Corps of the Finality.
Where above it infers that these children are really not given a choice, because if they do not choose but one way, they are
illuminatedeliminated (as though they had never been), which is more of a threat than a choice. Also that the world which are placed is not a morontia world but a transition world, where the environment is not really defined, but it does indicate that these children are not in a morontia state of physical being but are subject to a second physical death, where it would seem that they are brought you thinking this world would represent the mortal world where they experienced their first physical death. But the main point intended to be shown, was that choice is really not present there because if you do not choose only one way, the other option is nothing. No appeal, no nothing. And even if one were to choose the correct path, it ends without future expectations. Where if they are being adjudicated for being conceived in the first place, and given foster parents and deprived of a natural progression, who should be judged and for what? If there is only one option to a choice, it is not as choice, it is a mandate. Or it must also be part of a predetermined plan, which from the get go where if physical life is considered as being judged, for what would an infant be judged for if not for pre-existing discretions. It really doesn’t matter what I think but what others think, and unless given more than one option, there can be no choice. If there is not choice, there can also not be free fill, if the only option is to do one will. In other words, if you don’t agree to be possessed you will be eliminated. “Resistance is futile.” “You will be assimilated.”(1233.5)112:5.9 This does not mean that human beings are to enjoy a second opportunity in the face of the rejection of a first, not at all. But it does signify that all will creatures are to experience one true opportunity to make one undoubted, self-conscious, and final choice. The sovereign Judges of the universes will not deprive any being of personality status who has not finally and fully made the eternal choice; the soul of man must and will be given full and ample opportunity to reveal its true intent and real purpose.
What was the first choice, if a human being was given a second choice, the first would have occurred, ? in a prior existence?
MidiChlorian wrote: If I were to answer your questions and told you, “who I was”, “who I am” and “who I will be”, all this would generate more questions. . . . “Resistance is futile.” “You will be assimilated.”That’s hysterical!! You don’t have to tell us who you are or who you will be. Do you think I was born yesterday? Hah! I know you’re a Borg!
MidiChlorian wrote: Where above it infers that these children are really not given a choice, because if they do not choose but one way, they are illuminated, which is more of a threat than a choice. . . . . If there is not choice, there can also not be free fill, if the only option is to do one will. In other words, if you don’t agree to be possessed you will be illuminated.So what’s with the “illuminated” thing? Who and what is threatening illumination?
Here’s another interesting thing about the adjutants. The first adjutant, the spirit of intuition, assists the directional control creatures of Nebadon, the living compasses who activate microscopic bodies at the cellular level to always point north and south. This is fascinating because it is a magnetic sense, magnetoception, something we share with the animal world, and a very basic perception, or instinct, at that.
34:4.12-13 But it was of Salvington that John wrote: “And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices” — the universe broadcasts to the local systems. He also envisaged the directional control creatures of the local universe, the living compasses of the headquarters world. This directional control in Nebadon is maintained by the four control creatures of Salvington, who operate over the universe currents and are ably assisted by the first functioning mind-spirit, the adjutant of intuition, the spirit of “quick understanding.” But the description of these four creatures — called beasts — has been sadly marred; they are of unparalleled beauty and exquisite form. The four points of the compass are universal and inherent in the life of Nebadon. All living creatures possess bodily units which are sensitive and responsive to these directional currents. These creature creations are duplicated on down through the universe to the individual planets and, in conjunction with the magnetic forces of the worlds, so activate the hosts of microscopic bodies in the animal organism that these direction cells ever point north and south. Thus is the sense of orientation forever fixed in the living beings of the universe. This sense is not wholly wanting as a conscious possession by mankind. These bodies were first observed on Urantia about the time of this narration.
Actually this is a reference to the human brain-stem where the reference to the four beasts are the brains-stem’s four primary sections. If you find the other references to spirits would explain how the brain functions. As I mentioned earlier in this topic, regarding mapping the brain.
I doubt these children are given much education about the choices to come but, rather, are raised in an environment of total love and engagement and security and wisdom that they will quite naturally make a moral choice at the normal time…..or sooner perhaps by some months of our time.
I misspoke here: should have said “infants”…..children with TAs obviously, by text, receive a great education!! Indeed, consider that it is apparently normal for children to actually translate/fuse within 10 years or so of receiving the TA by the normal method of first moral choice:
(532.3) 47:2.5 The Adjuster-indwelt children and youths on the finaliter world are also reared in families of five, ranging in ages from six to fourteen; approximately, these families consist of children whose ages are six, eight, ten, twelve, and fourteen. Any time after sixteen, if final choice has been made, they translate to the first mansion world and begin their Paradise ascent. Some make a choice before this age and go on to the ascension spheres, but very few children under sixteen years of age, as reckoned by Urantia standards, will be found on the mansion worlds.
On Urantia, it can take centuries, even in the stages of L&L, to translate. So then, is this due to the lack of mind poisons and material attachments that such circle progress can happen so quickly to those so young? Fascinating. These children have mind, personality, free will, and spirit circuitry of the Spirits of the Father, Mother, and Son just like planet of birth raised children upon their first moral choice. They progress in their circles as all such mortal borns do. But they do so much more quickly. WOW…..what an environment for children to be raised!
It is my understanding that all the mansion worlds are considered “transition” worlds as we transition from mortal born to fusion, the very beginning of true ascension and spiritization of the one time mortal born ascender and potential finaliter:
(541.3) 48:0.3 Always this morontia transition intervenes between the mortal estate and the subsequent spirit status of surviving human beings. This intermediate state of universe progress differs markedly in the various local creations, but in intent and purpose they are all quite similar. The arrangement of the mansion and higher morontia worlds in Nebadon is fairly typical of the morontia transition regimes in this part of Orvonton.
1. Morontia Materials
(541.4) 48:1.1 The morontia realms are the local universe liaison spheres between the material and spiritual levels of creature existence. This morontia life has been known on Urantia since the early days of the Planetary Prince. From time to time this transition state has been taught to mortals, and the concept, in distorted form, has found a place in present-day religions.
(530.1) 47:0.1 THE Creator Son, when on Urantia, spoke of the “many mansions in the Father’s universe.” In a certain sense, all fifty-six of the encircling worlds of Jerusem are devoted to the transitional culture of ascending mortals, but the seven satellites of world number one are more specifically known as the mansion worlds.
(530.2) 47:0.2 Transition world number one itself is quite exclusively devoted to ascendant activities, being the headquarters of the finaliter corps assigned to Satania. This world now serves as the headquarters for more than one hundred thousand companies of finaliters, and there are one thousand glorified beings in each of these groups.
(530.3) 47:0.3 When a system is settled in light and life, and as the mansion worlds one by one cease to serve as mortal-training stations, they are taken over by the increasing finaliter population which accumulates in these older and more highly perfected systems.
MidiChlorian wrote: Actually this is a reference to the human brain-stem where the reference to the four beasts are the brains-stem’s four primary sections.Well, as I understand it, this can only occur if you are Borg who has been assimilated properly into the collective with activation of the antimatter properties of your positronic neural network which then directionalizes your activity to the collaborate subatomic Oneness.
Indeed, consider that it is apparently normal for children to actually translate/fuse within 10 years or so of receiving the TA by the normal method of first moral choice:
No offense Bradly, but I don’t know what you’re talking about. Are you referring to the quote you reproduced or to some other quote in the book? The quote you reproduced doesn’t say anything about fusion. Translation to the first mansion worlds doesn’t mean that they fused. It simply means that they made the decision to begin the ascension career. They would be no different from you or me arriving there after death. Then again, maybe they are being translated to the first mansion world to be threatened with illumination, to learn that resistance is futile, that they must be assimilated into the collective?? Don’t know for sure . . . still thinking about that.Ahhhh……thanks Bonita. Translation in this case is different than mortal translation which only happens as a matter of fusion on planet. Got it. So these teenagers must hit a certain circle or what criteria allows them to leave the nursery do you think?
Ahhhh……thanks Bonita. Translation in this case is different than mortal translation which only happens as a matter of fusion on planet. Got it. So these teenagers must hit a certain circle or what criteria allows them to leave the nursery do you think?
I’m pretty sure that the authors use the word translation to indicate movement from one place or condition to another. It is not used exclusively for fusion translation.
What do I think about the teenagers? I’m thinking that they’re waiting to find that mysterious “forth” part of their brainstems so they can directionalize themselves magnetically to the cosmos and get the heck out of the nursery where they’ve been kept captive with threats of illumination.
Yes, as I understand it the directional function is in all creatures everywhere in time and space, including insects, mammals, humans (but not just humans) and does so on all worlds regardless of brain size or form. An inherent beacon and directional transponder. I’ve often wondered about “hive mind” and the way some insects and lizards change their color or patterns for either mating or defense, etc. Seems like a mind is acting, but not the brain of those creatures? The adjutants manage much related to the process of natural selection, environmental response, and evolutionary changes in all planetary creatures it seems.
So what’s with the “illuminated” thing? Who and what is threatening illumination?
“eliminated” not “illuminated”, the auto correct and spell-check doesn’t work that well on this computer, also, the limitation of power on these batteries, hurries the process for re-reading, then there is trying to squeeze in as much as I can with the allotted time, left. Plus the editor on this forum has a mind of its own, plus I’m working with a wireless keyboard.
Seems like a mind is acting, but not the brain of those creatures?
Which creatures? the hive creatures or the technicolor creatures? Hive mind might be due in part from the 2nd and 5th adjutants. Self-preservation is the first adjutant.
The mind cannot function without the brain and nervous system. Mind energy needs a substrate. If the adjutants are functioning then the organic physical system associated with it (brain/nervous system) is also functioning.
But the adjutants themselves are not the mind, they are ministers to the individual mind. They pull, push, urge, stimulate, and prompt the individual mind to process incoming and outgoing data in a certain direction and with a cohesiveness of purpose. Mind is unity and that’s what the adjutants do, they work toward unity of mind energy on their particular level of specialization. Each has their own power and differential urges, instincts and tendencies, and when they get organized under the leadership of the 7th adjutant, then the machine is really humming. That is, unless you’re missing that fourth part of your brainstem, like I am, then you’re screwed.
“eliminated” not “illuminated”, the auto correct and spell-check doesn’t work that well on this computer, also, the limitation of power on these batteries, hurries the process for re-reading, then there is trying to squeeze in as much as I can with the allotted time, left. Plus the editor on this forum has a mind of its own, plus I’m working with a wireless keyboard.
Aaahhh! So what you’re saying is that 99.5% pattern recognition accuracy thingy you have needs battery back-up? See . . . I kinda figured you weren’t perfect. It’s okay. And I agree the editor on this forum rots.
The adjutants manage much related to the process of natural selection, environmental response, and evolutionary changes in all planetary creatures it seems.
Most likely that the first five adjutants can be associated to the five basic hormones in the human.
Not to mention that there are neuroscience differences between sexes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_sex_differences
Where hormones play a part.
Aaahhh! So what you’re saying is that 99.5% pattern recognition accuracy thingy you have needs battery back-up? See . . . I kinda figured you weren’t perfect. It’s okay. And I agree the editor on this forum rots.
Have you been drinking some of that 100 proof Ice Tea you are famous for?
Where is that avatar picture you posted on the old forum?
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