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You’ll never be able know anyone as well as you know God who lives within you. And that’s just a fact. Of course it will seem imaginary at first, that’s called the alter ego. In time, with effort, sincere prayer and by always sharing the inner life with him, you will come to know without a doubt whose presence it is. And that is because of the reality of it all. His reality cannot be denied without denying your own reality.
I can understand your devotion to God, Bonita, and that through the introduction of the Thought Adjuster in the Urantia Book, many individuals have gained a higher understand of their consciousness but, can one put too much emphasis on the alter ego approach, and loose their way, where they become so focused on the God within and loose sight of themselves and others. In other words, would God not want the individual to project His Will upon others as that individual and not as a God who has taken control of that persons free will?
The spirit influences work as one in the human mind. They do not contend with one another. If there is a war in your mind, then you are trying to serve two gods: the true God and the other imaginary god who is just your meager little self. [This does not pertain to people with schizophrenia, however. Those people have real chemical problems in their brains which prevent them from unifying their thoughts. Many of them are at constant war with the voices in their head.]
I understand what you are attempting to say above, especially in regards to a person who may be suffering from schizophrenia, where they hear these voices, and in some cases, these voices tell them what to do, as if they were in an alternate reality. But, as you indicate above, when a normal minded individual attempts to differentiate between “the spirit influences” since they “work as one in the human mind” how can one determine contention, if they act as one? I’m not sure of what you mean by “a war in your mind”, is it where this oneness takes on opposing thoughts or roles? Where one is impressing or urging one thing and then contradicts itself, like a conscience would? That might make sense, where that which is positive is God and that which is negative is the warring mind, as long as one knows the difference between the two, and this would not be the case with a person with schizophrenia?
I suppose That one could make the distinction where it is our spiritual nature that reaches out to recognize and worship the Father and it is more our intellectual nature that embraces the Supreme??
I’m not sure what you mean by embracing the Supreme, but I can tell you that it takes more than intellect to experience the Supreme. The Supreme requires a three-fold approach to reality unified by personality. Using only the intellect is not a three-fold approach to reality. I think Jesus did a splendid job of explaining this in the quote below. Notice that he includes material causation, intellectual self-consciousness, spiritually progressing selfhood. Where else have you seen these three levels of reality? Those are the levels of reality that the cosmic mind recognizes with a reality response. You need a full cosmic outlook in order to experience the Supreme.
p1434:01 The source of universe reality is the Infinite. The material things of finite creation are the time-space repercussions of the Paradise Pattern and the Universal Mind of the eternal God. Causation in the physical world, self-consciousness in the intellectual world, and progressing selfhood in the spirit world÷these realities, projected on a universal scale, combined in eternal relatedness, and experienced with perfection of quality and divinity of value÷constitute the reality of the Supreme.
Because of the quote says that the bestowal of adjutant mind-spirits is in accordance with innate brain capacity. As humans evolved from animals, their brain capacity increased thereby according a greater capability for contact with the adjutants.
Yes, but was not the quote in reference to “adjustment struggles of these primitive organisms“, and not humans, but animals. And, that the bestowal or gift, of “mine-spirits is in accordance with innate brain capacity”, where “innate” would indicate: “instinctive; not learned: innate capacities”. So, if one assumes that humans are still animals, and have a limited “brain capacity” would we need to wait until our human brains grow larger to be able to have more capacity, to house more or additional “adjutant mind-spirit” influences, and then as in other responses if personality is the controller, how would the personalities innateness as related to instinct, play on the adjutant’s?
MidiChlorian wrote: But as written, and given the colon (:), would this not be what the “seraphim teach”, and if this is what they teach, how would one know how to “exchange” one mind for another, without a seraphim teaching one how to do this?Seraphim are in perfect coordination with the spirit influences within the mind. It’s not necessary to separate them all out. The mind of Jesus can be thought of in different ways. Jesus had both a human and divine mind. To exchange your human mind for the human mind of Jesus would necessitate knowing something of how he lived is life on earth and what he believed in. But a more useful approach is to use the divine mind of Jesus which is the same as the Spirit of Truth, who helps men recall and understand the words of Jesus as well as to illuminate and reinterpret his life on earth. (p2061:3 194:2.5). If you need help accessing the Spirit of Truth, may I suggest listening to the knock on the door of your soul because he’s there constantly banging away, angels or no angels, until you hear him and open the door. It’s not that hard to do if you have any loyalty to Michael at all, even a smidgeon is enough.
MidiChlorian wrote: And then, how would one know that they were using the “mind of Jesus”, once this is done?The UB is pretty clear what happens if you have the mind of Jesus within you: “If any man has Christ Jesus within him, he is a new creature; old things are passing away; behold, all things are becoming new.” (p1103:06) Other things you might notice are listed below. If this list doesn’t appeal to you, then try the list on page 1000; 91:7.5-12.
- The personal acknowledgment of the Spirit of Truth gives new spiritual power and augments all of the spiritual influences previously experienced by God-knowing souls. (p2061:8 194:2.10)
- The coming of the Spirit of Truth purifies the human heart and leads the recipient to formulate a life purpose single to the will of God and the welfare of men. (p2065:07)
- Destroys the believer’s feeling of orphanhood and loneliness. (p2061:00)
- Unifies life, ennobles character, and simplifies experience. (p1103:06)
- Enters the human mind to elevate, transform, and transfigure it. (p1103:06)
- The joy of this outpoured spirit, when it is consciously experienced in human life, is a tonic for health, a stimulus for mind, and an unfailing energy for the soul. (2065:07)
- Will always speak, saying, “This is the way.” (p383:02)
- When in the heart, he reveals the Creator Son to men and enables them to yield the “fruits of the spirit”; and in so doing shows forth the traits which the Master manifested in his earthly life. (p2062:11 194:3.1)
MidiChlorian wrote: . . . but, can one put too much emphasis on the alter ego approach, and loose their way, where they become so focused on the God within and loose sight of themselves and others.Isn’t loosing sight of yourself the goal, the goal we know as selflessness? (140:5.5; 194:3.19)MidiChlorian wrote: In other words, would God not want the individual to project His Will upon others as that individual and not as a God who has taken control of that persons free will?First of all, I don’t think God wants us to project his will on others. Each person is supposed to determine God’s will individually; and, God’s will is different for each person. God’s will is a personal religious experience and not to be projected upon others as some sort of force or power. And God never takes over or controls free will; that is an impossibility. The personality, your personality, is always in full control of free will. It’s how you choose to use your free will that God cares about. Learning how God would like you to use it can only be approached by actually learning how God would use it if he were in your situation.How would you know what decisions are most God-like without know what God is like? We have to learn what God is like, what his nature is like, how his mind works, how he thinks. The “mind of Jesus” is the best approach, and the alter ego which has become a more Jesus-like or God-like alter ego, can get the ball rolling. You have to first be able to imagine what a loving divine brother/father would think and do in a given situation. After you try it, then you perfect it. Eventually the alter ego evolves into something that you recognize as holy and worthy of respect. If you haven’t tried it, then I’m not sure you can understand. But I can assure you that it is not something that goes on solely within the creative imagination of the playful mind. It must be acted out and worked on within the realm of experiential reality. That means one cannot ignore life and the people in it. To learn to do the will of God requires all of reality, both within the mind and without, and eventually, all persons both lovely and unlovely.But, as you indicate above, when a normal minded individual attempts to differentiate between “the spirit influences” since they “work as one in the human mind” how can one determine contention, if they act as one? I’m not sure of what you mean by “a war in your mind”, is it where this oneness takes on opposing thoughts or roles? Where one is impressing or urging one thing and then contradicts itself, like a conscience would? That might make sense, where that which is positive is God and that which is negative is the warring mind, as long as one knows the difference between the two, and this would not be the case with a person with schizophrenia?
The war in the mind would be between the material self and the emerging divine self. A progressing personality will inevitably encounter conflict within the mind between these two levels of living, material and spiritual, human and divine. It’s designed to be that way, where we learn to rely on the unity of spiritual influences within our mind to show us the way out of chaos and confusion caused by the friction between the two levels of living.
Remember that we are told numerous times that there can be no growth without psychic conflict (100:4.2), that moral choosing is accompanied by conflict between egoism and altruism (103:2.7). No normal mind can stand the psychic conflict of double allegiance for long, sooner or later a choice must be made between the human, material, egoistic choice or the divine, spiritual, altruistic choice. Until that choice is made, there is warfare in the mind.
Once the choice is made, the consequences must be experienced. This is where a normal mind will have the opportunity to determine whether or not it was a wise or unwise choice. Did the choice bring peace of mind or did it perpetuate the conflict or create new ones? The spirits of worship and wisdom are designed to help us with this, as does the cosmic mind reality recognition response aided by the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth and the Adjuster, all who act as one unified spirit influence. If the consequences of our actions bring more psychic turmoil, sooner or later the normal minded individual will recognize the futility of their thinking and look for new options. Those options not born of the unified spirit forces within, will continue to result in dissatisfaction. But these spiritual forces continue to labor and toil until finally the mind wakes up to them. To those who have become accustomed to looking for options that Jesus or a loving Father-God might choose, the struggle is much easier. His yoke is easy and his burden is light.
133:7.12 The human mind does not well stand the conflict of double allegiance. It is a severe strain on the soul to undergo the experience of an effort to serve both good and evil. The supremely happy and efficiently unified mind is the one wholly dedicated to the doing of the will of the Father in heaven. Unresolved conflicts destroy unity and may terminate in mind disruption. But the survival character of a soul is not fostered by attempting to secure peace of mind at any price, by the surrender of noble aspirations, and by the compromise of spiritual ideals; rather is such peace attained by the stalwart assertion of the triumph of that which is true, and this victory is achieved in the overcoming of evil with the potent force of good.
159:3.7 Forewarn all believers regarding the fringe of conflict which must be traversed by all who pass from the life as it is lived in the flesh to the higher life as it is lived in the spirit. To those who live quite wholly within either realm, there is little conflict or confusion, but all are doomed to experience more or less uncertainty during the times of transition between the two levels of living. In entering the kingdom, you cannot escape its responsibilities or avoid its obligations, but remember: The gospel yoke is easy and the burden of truth is light.
So, if one assumes that humans are still animals, and have a limited “brain capacity” would we need to wait until our human brains grow larger to be able to have more capacity, to house more or additional “adjutant mind-spirit” influences, and then as in other responses if personality is the controller, how would the personalities innateness as related to instinct, play on the adjutant’s?
Not sure what you’re talking about Midi. Humans are superanimals. There will come a time when we have reached the limits of biologic evolution and our brain capacity will be at its peak. The UB says this will happen in the fifth epoch of the light and life era. At this point I can only speculate what will happen then. I assume there will not be more or additional adjutant influences, but rather their coordinate ability to function will be enhanced by this increased capacity.
Even now, as we presently are evolution-wise, we are told that even before fusion additional mind ministries are made available to us. But these mind ministries are not the adjutant mind-spirits. When an individual enters the first psychic circle ” . . . mind becomes increasingly akin to the intelligence of the morontia stage of evolution, the conjoined ministry of the cosmic mind and the superadjutant endowment of the Creative Spirit of a local universe.” (110:6.21) The super adjutant endowment of the Creative Spirit is the Holy Spirit or supermind of the soul. This means that the adjutants lose influence while the cosmic mind and Holy Spirit superimpose them. In other words, the morontia mind becomes the primary mind ministry. At the first psychic circle level occurs “. . . the superimposition of the endowment of morontia mind upon adjutant mind initiates the prespiritual or morontia career of local universe progression.” (112:6.9) One naturally assumes that most individuals living on a world that has reached the limits of its biologic evolution will be capable of reaching the first psychic circle.
It’s not that hard to do if you have any loyalty to Michael at all, even a smidgeon is enough.
I can see understanding the teachings of Jesus, because He could be associated to humans, but when we take into account that “Michael” would be represented as a archangel in relation to the hierarchy in heaven, and that there are numerous “Michael’s” within that structure, and would be considered as spirit, and supreme sovereign, of this local universe, then why swear loyalty to one and go directly to the Father of all. Would this also not be a conflict, where if we are to do the Fathers will, and act upon it through Michael’s truth, then would there also not already be less conflict in the world today. When living life in the flesh on Earth or living in the spirit on a Morontia world, where we would not know the difference, would there not be a continuation of life? Regardless of whether life is eternal or not, how would any of us know the difference. So, to swear a loyalty to a spiritual being, would not be logical unless everyone else also had the same choices. So, who would one swear loyalty to, Jesus, Michael or Our Father? Then there is the Holy Spirit, who it has been said that having know the Holy Spirit and by rejecting the Holy Spirit, that this would be the only unforgivable sin, therefore, would it not be advisable to be loyal to one and since the Holy Spirit is closest to us, material beings, not choose one over the other?
The UB is pretty clear what happens if you have the mind of Jesus within you: “If any man has Christ Jesus within him, he is a new creature; old things are passing away; behold, all things are becoming new.” (p1103:06) Other things you might notice are listed below. If this list doesn’t appeal to you, then try the list on page 1000; 91:7.5-12.
When one looks at your alternate UB reference, given above, “91:7.5-12” it is found in the section which specks of “Mysticism, Ecstasy, and Inspiration”.
Where in its first notations indicates the following:
(1000.2)91:7.1 Mysticism, as the technique of the cultivation of the consciousness of the presence of God, is altogether praiseworthy, but when such practices lead to social isolation and culminate in religious fanaticism, they are all but reprehensible. Altogether too frequently that which the overwrought mystic evaluates as divine inspiration is the uprisings of his own deep mind. The contact of the mortal mind with its indwelling Adjuster, while often favored by devoted meditation, is more frequently facilitated by wholehearted and loving service in unselfish ministry to one’s fellow creatures.
“But when such practices lead to social Isolation and culminate in religious fanaticism,” yet what you describe, could this not also be described as “religious fanaticism” to a point of mysticism. It is one thing to say that, if your mind doesn’t please you, use the “mind of Jesus”, but how would you explain this to others if it would not appear as a mystic approach or thought?
Then there is your alternate list:
(1000.6)91:7.5 The practical test of all these strange religious experiences of mysticism, ecstasy, and inspiration is to observe whether these phenomena cause an individual:
(1000.7)91:7.6 1. To enjoy better and more complete physical health.
(1000.8)91:7.7 2. To function more efficiently and practically in his mental life.
(1000.9)91:7.8 3. More fully and joyfully to socialize his religious experience.
(1000.10)91:7.9 4. More completely to spiritualize his day-by-day living while faithfully discharging the commonplace duties of routine mortal existence.
(1001.1)91:7.10 5. To enhance his love for, and appreciation of, truth, beauty, and goodness.
(1001.2)91:7.11 6. To conserve currently recognized social, moral, ethical, and spiritual values.
(1001.3)91:7.12 7. To increase his spiritual insight — God-consciousness.
(1001.4)91:7.13 But prayer has no real association with these exceptional religious experiences. When prayer becomes overmuch aesthetic, when it consists almost exclusively in beautiful and blissful contemplation of paradisiacal divinity, it loses much of its socializing influence and tends toward mysticism and the isolation of its devotees. There is a certain danger associated with overmuch private praying which is corrected and prevented by group praying, community devotions.
Which is followed by “91:7.13” which indicates that the list above are “exceptional religious experiences.” And then indicates that “There is a certain danger associated with overmuch private praying”, where I mention this because the tone of your responses might indicate a certain “ecstasy” in there phrasing. Also, the list above might be questionable as to their implications as indicated within the context of the subject.
I can see understanding the teachings of Jesus, because He could be associated to humans, but when we take into account that “Michael” would be represented as a archangel in relation to the hierarchy in heaven, and that there are numerous “Michael’s” within that structure, and would be considered as spirit, and supreme sovereign, or this local universe, then why swear loyalty to one and go directly to the Father of all.
Midi, where did you get the idea that Michael is an archangel? That is not in the UB. I know that it is part of some evolutionary religions, but it is erroneous.
You ask, since there are numerous Michaels, why not go directly to the Father of all the Michaels. Perhaps you read where Jesus said that no one gets to the Father except through him? He wasn’t just saying that for haha’s. It’s a fact of reality on all levels.
We are supposed to begin our eternal career by recognizing the divinity and personality of the Creator Son of our local universe as an experiential reality, and this begins right here on earth (0:8.2). To us, our Michael is God. “He is the local universe personification of the Universal Father and the Eternal Son.” (5:3.6) The Universal Father functions in a local universe through the Creator Son despite the fact that his divine fragment actually indwells us (33:0.1).
It is one thing to say that, if your mind doesn’t please you, use the “mind of Jesus”, but how would you explain this to others if it would not appear as a mystic approach or thought?
Why would you need to explain this to others? Wouldn’t the fruits of the spirit speak for themselves? Wouldn’t the spiritual fragrance be enough? And how would it appear mystic? To use the mind of Jesus would make you more real, more genuine, more sincere and more alive. How would that appear to be mystical or part of a false reality? Using the mind of Jesus is not an affectation, a role playing game. It’s real. If you’re just playing games, then you’re not being sincere and genuine; you’re putting on false faces, pretending to be something or someone you’re not. When you’re living with the mind of Jesus, you’re living the truth and the truth is inconcussible.
48:7.17 15. Affectation is the ridiculous effort of the ignorant to appear wise, the attempt of the barren soul to appear rich.
100:7.2 The unfailing kindness of Jesus touched the hearts of men, but his stalwart strength of character amazed his followers. He was truly sincere; there was nothing of the hypocrite in him. He was free from affectation; he was always so refreshingly genuine. He never stooped to pretense, and he never resorted to shamming. He lived the truth, even as he taught it. He was the truth. He was constrained to proclaim saving truth to his generation, even though such sincerity sometimes caused pain. He was unquestioningly loyal to all truth.
118:3.3 Truth is inconcussible — forever exempt from all transient vicissitudes, albeit never dead and formal, always vibrant and adaptable — radiantly alive.
There is a certain danger associated with overmuch private praying”, where I mention this because the tone of your responses might indicate a certain “ecstasy” in there phrasing.
If you read what I wrote carefully, you would have noticed that I said: “It must be acted out and worked on within the realm of experiential reality. That means one cannot ignore life and the people in it. To learn to do the will of God requires all of reality, both within the mind and without, and eventually, all persons both lovely and unlovely.” If you’re not ignoring life and the people in it, then you’re not engaged in “overmuch private praying”. Besides, the goal is to make your entire a prayer with unbroken communion with God, just like Jesus did. That means all parts of your life becomes a prayer, both private and public.
And since when does the peace that passes all understanding translate into ecstasy? Ecstasy is caused by an emotional frenzy of excitement which results in either trancelike rapture, extreme feelings of euphoria, or some transcendental experience of unreality. The peace that passes all understanding is none of those things. It is NOT an emotional frenzy, it is NOT a rapture or euphoric happiness; there are NO transports of rhapsody or delirious jubilation and it NEVER becomes unreal. It is simply peace and security; it is the kind of comfort that comes from assurance; it is complete confidence in sonship and survival.
We are supposed to begin our eternal career by recognizing the divinity and personality of the Creator Son of our local universe as an experiential reality, and this begins right here on earth (0:8.2).
Granted, that is what is says in the Urantia Book, (the new holy bible) but I can understand the phrase that Jesus said about going through Him, but that is in reference to His teachings, and the religion of Jesus. If Jesus was the only begotten Son of God, then why need all the other Michael’s, or if begotten, are all the others clones? Or do you not believe that Jesus was begotten? If so than all of the other Michael’s would have a similar history in all of the other local universes. It is one thing to change the names in a narration, but to extend the names would indicate that this narration comes from another source, or religious belief, where Michael is predominant to its history. Therefore, to take on a loyalty to one and not the other would indicate that truth is relative to the environment and the last I remember, this environment is earth. Repetition does not make right, but there is a quote where the UB has inferred that a Biblical quote which referred to the Archangel Michael was a reference to the UB Michael, in keeping with the narration, so it would seem that only the Urantia Book is the truth and anything else, is false. This would constitute that the Urantia Book has become the Holy Bible to many who read it.
Granted, that is what is says in the Urantia Book, (the new holy bible) but I can understand the phrase that Jesus said about going through Him, but that is in reference to His teachings, and the religion of Jesus.
And what was the religion of Jesus? Christianity teaches the religion about Jesus. So what about the religion OF Jesus and why did he tell us so many times that he is the way to the Father? And when I say WE, I mean all humans, not just Christians. That doesn’t mean that all humans have to become Christians or even believe in the religion about Jesus. They simply have to recognize the religion of Jesus, which is simply sonship with God.
If Jesus was the only begotten Son of God, then why need all the other Michael’s, or if begotten, are all the others clones? Or do you not believe that Jesus was begotten?
Jesus, portrayed as the only begotten Son of God, is a Christian myth. The UB tells us that the Eternal Son is the only begotten Son of God (6:1.1; 10:1.4). Christianity still thinks that Jesus is the Second Source and Center, which we know is not true. Creator Sons are the “only begotten” Sons of one particular creative ideal embodying a characteristic of the Universal Father and the Eternal Son. Each Creator Son is completely unique and different from the other. No clones.
33:1.1 Our Creator Son is the personification of the 611,121st original concept of infinite identity of simultaneous origin in the Universal Father and the Eternal Son. The Michael of Nebadon is the “only-begotten Son” personalizing this 611,121st universal concept of divinity and infinity.
21:0.1 The Creator Sons are the makers and rulers of the local universes of time and space. These universe creators and sovereigns are of dual origin, embodying the characteristics of God the Father and God the Son. But each Creator Son is different from every other; each is unique in nature as well as in personality; each is the “only-begotten Son” of the perfect deity ideal of his origin.
21:1.2 Each Creator Son is the only-begotten and only-begettable offspring of the perfect union of the original concepts of the two infinite and eternal and perfect minds of the ever-existent Creators of the universe of universes. There never can be another such Son because each Creator Son is the unqualified, finished, and final expression and embodiment of all of every phase of every feature of every possibility of every divine reality that could, throughout all eternity, ever be found in, expressed by, or evolved from, those divine creative potentials which united to bring this Michael Son into existence. Each Creator Son is the absolute of the united deity concepts which constitute his divine origin.
MidiChlorian wrote: . . . but there is a quote where the UB has inferred that a Biblical quote which referred to the Archangel Michael was a reference to the UB MichaelNo, no . . . you’ve misunderstood. The UB mentions the archangel OF Michael. This means the archangel representing and working for Michael. There is no Archangel Michael anywhere in the text.37:3.6 This is the archangel of the resurrection, sometimes referred to as the “archangel of Michael.”53:1.2 Even the archangel of Michael, at the time of Moses’ resurrection, “did not bring against him an accusing judgment but simply said, ‘the Judge rebuke you.’”MidiChlorian wrote: Therefore, to take on a loyalty to one and not the other . . .How can you be loyal to a personality that does not exist within your own universe or superuniverse? Are you suggesting that we can know what’s going on in other universes and know their Michaels intimately while we’re under quarantine and aren’t even allowed to know what’s happening on other planets within our own universe? I’m pretty sure that is currently not possible. But if you put on your tin-foil cap and think real hard, perhaps you can pick up some energy waves emanating from a nearby universe and when you make contact, ask them if they will take you to their leader . . . but watch out for the overlapping negative liaison energy forces which are waiting to ambush you, defile your mind and destroy it . . . just sayin’.Greetings All!! Midi – I think many celestials in the UB are class named – from Andon and Fonta even (?) to the Adams and Eves to the Creator Sons. I don’t know if Michael has a personal name except for his bestowal name given upon his birth.
Paper 35
The Local Universe Sons of God
(384.1) 35:0.1 THE Sons of God previously introduced have had a Paradise origin. They are the offspring of the divine Rulers of the universal domains. Of the first Paradise order of sonship, the Creator Sons, there is in Nebadon only one, Michael, the universe father and sovereign. Of the second order of Paradise sonship, the Avonal or Magisterial Sons, Nebadon has its full quota — 1,062. And these “lesser Christs” are just as effective and all-powerful in their planetary bestowals as was the Creator and Master Son on Urantia.
As to the Holy Bible inference – it is true some students do eventually come to believe that the UB is what it claims to be – a divinely gifted epochal revelation, the most recent of 5. But the book does not claim any hidden mysteries or mandatory beliefs and does claim that all faith and love trumps all knowledge and facts, even those given us in the Revelation. No one I know claims the Bible was written by God or by celestials….many claim it is the “word” of God as written by his prophets and holy folk of old. It is not important, that I’ve ever heard, that any student proclaim any belief in this book of truths but for those who do so come to believe its Epochal importance in reducing confusion and ignorance, we do indeed accept it’s teachings and live them as best we understand which does not elevate anyone’s standing in the cosmos even a little. There is no shortcut to spirit progress and there is but one proof for all – the fruits of the spirit.
While it is not good for anyone who believes the UB is true as Epochal Revelation to heckle or pressure those who do not, it is also not a noble thing for those who believe differently to indict those of us who do believe it to be so. Bonita teaches from the Revelation and does so consistently and enthusiastically and with scholarship and no little understanding – and this site is for such study of the text and its affect on student lives. The road to Paradise does indeed lead to and past the door of Michael of Nebadon and in this matter, agrees with the bible quite literally. And the UB is replete with explanation of the many other things shared and also the many distortions of time in the records of men. Thanks for your perspective Midi in this and other topics from the text and the records of time as told by those religionists of old, many of whom knew much that we now learn about by way of the UB.
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