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Hopefully, people are keeping current their geopolitical knowledge, besides reading the Urantia papers. What happens in real time affects us no matter how aloof we are from the mundane reality. In any event, if you are not aware, NKorea has gone nuclear capable, and this changes the balance of power in that region and around the world. Will the US respond militarily? We will find out soon. If we enter into a war with NKorea, it has the potential of escalating into a nuclear fallout; I believe China will be drawn in if we attack NKorea and then all bets are off.
A nuclear war would threaten humanity. According to TUB, in such situation, the Heavens will intervene in this capacity:
51:2.3 While there is this dematerializing technique for preparing the Adams for transit from Jerusem to the evolutionary worlds, there is no equivalent method for taking them away from such worlds unless the entire planet is to be emptied, in which event emergency installation of the dematerialization technique is made for the entire salvable population. If some physical catastrophe should doom the planetary residence of an evolving race, the Melchizedeks and the Life Carriers would install the technique of dematerialization for all survivors, and by seraphic transport these beings would be carried away to the new world prepared for their continuing existence. The evolution of a human race, once initiated on a world of space, must proceed quite independently of the physical survival of that planet, but during the evolutionary ages it is not otherwise intended that a Planetary Adam or Eve shall leave their chosen world.
BB
Yes….let us all be afraid, very, very afraid!! As if the Most Highs and our rulers and unseen friends have no control or influence to save a world any other ways. Light and Life is an inevitability for our world and all worlds.
We will suffer for our follies and a nuclear event is not impossible. But shall we believe in global annihilation by world war between China, Russian, the USA, and Europe – N. Korea may commit suicide and deliver death and destruction to some poor victims, but global destruction – get real BB? For it would take the insanity of all to bring about BB’s fears. What a fine topic for students of the Revelation…not! Talk about silly. More darkness, doubt, and fear. So much to fear on a world where the Master instructed us to Fear Not. Perhaps a better discussion?
Dude, something is really wrong with you. Check that attitude before I report you for harassment and stalking. Real talk. If you don’t like my topics, you have the option to NOT PARTICIPATE.Yes….let us all be afraid, very, very afraid!! As if the Most Highs and our rulers and unseen friends have no control or influence to save a world any other ways. Light and Life is an inevitability for our world and all worlds. We will suffer for our follies and a nuclear event is not impossible. But shall we believe in global annihilation by world war between China, Russian, the USA, and Europe – N. Korea may commit suicide and deliver death and destruction to some poor victims, but global destruction – get real BB? For it would take the insanity of all to bring about BB’s fears. What a fine topic for students of the Revelation…not! Talk about silly. More darkness, doubt, and fear. So much to fear on a world where the Master instructed us to Fear Not. Perhaps a better discussion?
BB
Yes….let us all be afraid, very, very afraid!! As if the Most Highs and our rulers and unseen friends have no control or influence to save a world any other ways.
Considering that the “Most Highs” — “Constellation Fathers” — are allowed to experiment with, in this case our planet or even to the extreme, the universe, who is to say what these “experiments” will reveal or produce. Or, could it be said that we are only lab rats?
(34.3) 2:1.4 The Father constantly and unfailingly meets the need of the differential of demand for himself as it changes from time to time in various sections of his master universe. The great God knows and understands himself; he is infinitely self-conscious of all his primal attributes of perfection. God is not a cosmic accident; neither is he a universe experimenter. The Universe Sovereigns may engage in adventure; the Constellation Fathers[Most Highs]may experiment; the system heads may practice; but the Universal Father sees the end from the beginning, and his divine plan and eternal purpose actually embrace and comprehend all the experiments and all the adventures of all his subordinates in every world, system, and constellation in every universe of his vast domains.
It has been thought by some, that some of the plagues that befell the Earth, and caused mass deaths, where created? However, because of these plagues, attempts were made to improve, or even eradicate them, from occurring in the future?
If we enter into a war with NKorea
BB, one must keep in mind that the hostilities with North Korea, in the past was and still is a War. In that our current state, or relation with them is under “cease-fire” or “armistice” agreement in hopes of a “final peaceful settlement” can be achieved, where none has been settled. Therefore, in essence, we are still at War with North Korea, and under “cease-fire” arrangement. It would seem that North Korea, intends to negate this agreement, based on its most recent actions. However, what would North Korea have to gain by starting this conflict up again? Being that in the past, they were associated with China, it might indicate that they are attempting to bring China into this conflict, inviting them to take over their government, and make it a part of the Chinese domain? This whole affair would seem to be likened to the Vietnam conflict of the past.
That is a good question, Midi. What does NK stand to gain by this move? I think China gave Nkorea the nukes, and I think China’s ultimate goal is to be a major player in the global market, so they have to play nice with the US and the West, and at the same time use NKorea as their proxy to push back the US from the Korean Peninsula; they want to have their cake and it eat too, as the saying goes. But here is the thing, what will Trump do? Will he try to take out NK’s leader? If he does nothing, then pretty much Trump/US sends a signal to the rest of the world that if you acquire nukes and we are unable to stop you, we will accept you into the nuke club. But on the other hand, Trump wants to appear hawkish so he could go after NK’s leader with a limited military strike, and that my friend would open the door to war.If we enter into a war with NKorea
BB, one must keep in mind that the hostilities with North Korea, in the past was and still is a War. In that our current state, or relation with them is under “cease-fire” or “armistice” agreement in hopes of a “final peaceful settlement” can be achieved, where none has been settled. Therefore, in essence, we are still at War with North Korea, and under “cease-fire” arrangement. It would seem that North Korea, intends to negate this agreement, based on its most recent actions. However, what would North Korea have to gain by starting this conflict up again? Being that in the past, they were associated with China, it might indicate that they are attempting to bring China into this conflict, inviting them to take over their government, and make it a part of the Chinese domain? This whole affair would seem to be likened to the Vietnam conflict of the past.
BB
Considering that the “Most Highs” — “Constellation Fathers” — are allowed to experiment with, in this case our planet or even to the extreme, the universe, who is to say what these “experiments” will reveal or produce. Or, could it be said that we are only lab rats?
(34.3) 2:1.4 The Father constantly and unfailingly meets the need of the differential of demand for himself as it changes from time to time in various sections of his master universe. The great God knows and understands himself; he is infinitely self-conscious of all his primal attributes of perfection. God is not a cosmic accident; neither is he a universe experimenter. The Universe Sovereigns may engage in adventure; the Constellation Fathers[Most Highs]may experiment; the system heads may practice; but the Universal Father sees the end from the beginning, and his divine plan and eternal purpose actually embrace and comprehend all the experiments and all the adventures of all his subordinates in every world, system, and constellation in every universe of his vast domains.
It has been thought by some, that some of the plagues that befell the Earth, and caused mass deaths, where created? However, because of these plagues, attempts were made to improve, or even eradicate them, from occurring in the future?
NO…it cannot be said….not here dude. Lab rats? The Most Highs delivered the plague? And AIDS? And earthquakes and hurricanes no doubt? So then we are not loved and cherished as individuals and a world? This is the specific accusation you make Caligastia/Midichlorian. More darkness, doubt, suspicion, and paranoia….oh well, you are consistent in your fearmongering here if devoid of any understanding of the UB.
As to those worlds considered “decimal” worlds which are in the hands of the Life Carriers – but only until such time as a world is deemed ‘inhabited’…and then any further life form experimentation is forbidden (as any reader of the text would know…or might simply ask about rather than make false presumptions and claims) – in other words, it is the Life Carriers that work for millions of years to create the slow evolutionary establishment of life on every world and their work is over as soon as the first human mind with spirit response is found and then there is no more so-called experimentation which is allowed on any of the one-of-ten worlds which are dedicated for the potential of ‘improvement’ in the biological life experience of future worlds (hardly lab rats then or now or ever – good grief:
36:2.15 (398.2) The planetary life-planning laboratories are situated on the second satellite of this world number two. In these laboratories the Life Carriers and all their associates collaborate with the Melchizedeks in the effort to modify and possibly improve the life designed for implantation on the decimal planets of Nebadon. The life now evolving on Urantia was planned and partially worked out on this very world, for Urantia is a decimal planet, a life-experiment world. On one world in each ten a greater variance in the standard life designs is permitted than on the other (nonexperimental) worlds.
49:5.11 (565.12) Normal adjustments to planetary conditions follow the general physical patterns previously considered. The worlds of the nonbreathers typify the radical or extreme adjustment, but other types are also included in this group. Experimental worlds are usually ideally adapted to the typical life forms, and on these decimal planets the Life Carriers attempt to produce beneficial variations in the standard life designs. Since your world is an experimental planet, it differs markedly from its sister spheres in Satania; many forms of life have appeared on Urantia that are not found elsewhere; likewise are many common species absent from your planet.
49:5.12 (565.13) In the universe of Nebadon, all the life-modification worlds are serially linked together and constitute a special domain of universe affairs which is given attention by designated administrators; and all of these experimental worlds are periodically inspected by a corps of universe directors whose chief is the veteran finaliter known in Satania as Tabamantia.
58:0.1 (664.1) IN ALL Satania there are only sixty-one worlds similar to Urantia, life-modification planets. The majority of inhabited worlds are peopled in accordance with established techniques; on such spheres the Life Carriers are afforded little leeway in their plans for life implantation. But about one world in ten is designated as a decimal planet and assigned to the special registry of the Life Carriers; and on such planets we are permitted to undertake certain life experiments in an effort to modify or possibly improve the standard universe types of living beings.
58:4.1 (667.5) That we are called Life Carriers should not confuse you. We can and do carry life to the planets, but we brought no life to Urantia. Urantia life is unique, original with the planet. This sphere is a life-modification world; all life appearing hereon was formulated by us right here on the planet; and there is no other world in all Satania, even in all Nebadon, that has a life existence just like that of Urantia.
62:7.3 (710.2) “To the Life Carriers on Urantia — Greetings! We transmit assurance of great pleasure on Salvington, Edentia, and Jerusem in honor of the registration on the headquarters of Nebadon of the signal of the existence on Urantia of mind of will dignity. The purposeful decision of the twins to flee northward and segregate their offspring from their inferior ancestors has been noted. This is the first decision of mind — the human type of mind — on Urantia and automatically establishes the circuit of communication over which this initial message of acknowledgment is transmitting.”
62:7.4 (710.3) Next over this new circuit came the greetings of the Most Highs of Edentia, containing instructions for the resident Life Carriers forbidding us to interfere with the pattern of life we had established. We were directed not to intervene in the affairs of human progress. It should not be inferred that Life Carriers ever arbitrarily and mechanically interfere with the natural outworking of the planetary evolutionary plans, for we do not. But up to this time we had been permitted to manipulate the environment and shield the life plasm in a special manner, and it was this extraordinary, but wholly natural, supervision that was to be discontinued.
What the Papers actually say is infinitely more interesting than Midi/Cali’s distortions and falsifications might ever invent for our alarm and fear. How do we learn to trust and love those portrayed by such a dark perspective…such a tormented and tortured view.
I think China gave Nkorea the nukes, and I think China’s ultimate goal is to be a major player in the global market,
I doubt that China gave North Korea the nukes, it would make no sense, for NK to test them over and over if they know they would work. Besides, China wouldn’t want NK with them at their back door, they are too unpredictable. It is more likely that NK got their components from Russia. Also China is a major player in the Global Market, and anything that would jeopardize that would not play in their favor. However, China is NK’s main trading partner, and we really don’t know how this actually plays out in regard to the benefits to either.
As fare as what the US may be attempting to do, is to get the stacks high enough to force China to take over NK, and that might be what NK is attempting to move toward. But, for NK to voluntarily merge with China, would make them loose face, therefore, they might welcome a takeover by China? If this were to happen, China might be able to negotiate a deal with SK, in order to attain a virtual merge with the North and the South, theoretically reuniting Korea. South Korea, has a big part in the global market, however this market is supported by the obligation to the US. In any case, any conflict with NK, where NK would loose, but in essence would as a result, in reparation aid coming into the country, by the US, which would cause a larger deficit and put the US, lower on the Global Seen, which would raise the Asian supremacy on the Global Market seen. Either way the US looses.
How do we learn to trust and love those portrayed by such a dark perspective…such a tormented and tortured view.By holding fast to our faith in God and dealing directly with the fact that the children of the father of sin are present in the world, everywhere, even in places like this, doing the utmost to do their father’s will to bolster the ancient deceit that all is not right with God and to sway the otherwise weary to unkowingly participate in this now extremely putrefied rebellion of death.A plausible scenario you propose, Midi. I guess time will tell soon the outcome.I think China gave Nkorea the nukes, and I think China’s ultimate goal is to be a major player in the global market,
I doubt that China gave North Korea the nukes, it would make no sense, for NK to test them over and over if they know they would work. Besides, China wouldn’t want NK with them at their back door, they are too unpredictable. It is more likely that NK got their components from Russia. Also China is a major player in the Global Market, and anything that would jeopardize that would not play in their favor. However, China is NK’s main trading partner, and we really don’t know how this actually plays out in regard to the benefits to either. As fare as what the US may be attempting to do, is to get the stacks high enough to force China to take over NK, and that might be what NK is attempting to move toward. But, for NK to voluntarily merge with China, would make them loose face, therefore, they might welcome a takeover by China? If this were to happen, China might be able to negotiate a deal with SK, in order to attain a virtual merge with the North and the South, theoretically reuniting Korea. South Korea, has a big part in the global market, however this market is supported by the obligation to the US. In any case, any conflict with NK, where NK would loose, but in essence would as a result, in reparation aid coming into the country, by the US, which would cause a larger deficit and put the US, lower on the Global Seen, which would raise the Asian supremacy on the Global Market seen. Either way the US looses.
BB
“. . . on the verge of global nuclear war”
No, we’re not on the verge. Turn your face away from fear, BB. What’s got into you?
Consider this nugget about the least becoming the greatest:
(466.4)41:10.5 Urantia is comparatively isolated on the outskirts of Satania, your solar system, with one exception, being the farthest removed from Jerusem, while Satania itself is next to the outermost system of Norlatiadek, and this constellation is now traversing the outer fringe of Nebadon. You were truly among the least of all creation until Michael’s bestowal elevated your planet to a position of honor and great universe interest. Sometimes the last is first, while truly the least becomes greatest.
I am profoundly grateful to have that bit of knowledge in 51:2.3 No matter what happens, provision for terrestrial overcare is in place for those who love God and aim to do his will. If it becomes necessary to empty the planet, techniques are in place. Joy is the feeling I feel. Do you realize all the stuff that is provided for us and for this famous planet? Even all the work done to keep this planet protected from ferocious Norlatiadek currents?
41:2.8 [Part II]The power-energy supervision of the evolutionary inhabited worlds is the responsibility of the Master Physical Controllers, but these beings are not responsible for all energy misbehavior on Urantia. There are a number of reasons for such disturbances, some of which are beyond the domain and control of the physical custodians. Urantia is in the lines of tremendous energies, a small planet in the circuit of enormous masses, and the local controllers sometimes employ enormous numbers of their order in an effort to equalize these lines of energy. They do fairly well with regard to the physical circuits of Satania but have trouble insulating against the powerful Norlatiadek currents.How do you get fear out of my post? Please explain. Also, the revelation I posted, do you think the Revelator has fear? What would be the difference between what the Revelator and I state? And finally, we have had two devasting global wars already. War is a human experience and reality. Why act like it does not exist?“. . . on the verge of global nuclear war”
No, we’re not on the verge. Turn your face away from fear, BB. What’s got into you?
BB
BB, you titled this topic “Humanity is on the verge of a global nuclear war”. That is a declarative statement. It’s a headline one might find on a throwaway newspaper meant to get people to buy a copy. It incites fear and alarm.
If you want to talk about war, fine, but not politics. This is an apolitical forum. I found that fact out here last November. Please curb the politics.
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