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    Bonita
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    Have you ever wondered why experience must be part of the soul?  Why does divinity have to be earned; why can’t it just be bestowed upon us as a gift?  We are told that this phenomena of soul evolution and fusion is one of the most perplexing mysteries of the universe.  In fact, it is a mystery so secret that only those who have the experience are qualified to know and understand it.  The soul is something so uniquely special and an integral a part of the cosmos.  It’s a wonder that so few don’t take delight in it.

    Experience demands choices, deciding the difference between a real lasting treasure and a sparkly object of passing significance.  Our souls are designed to capture all of the real lasting treasures of a lifetime as the mind winds its way through a jungle of intriguing shiny objects.  It’s an adventure that born-perfect Deity on high wish they could have.  So why do so many take it so lightly?  Why don’t people recognize the extreme importance of this adventure?  And the fun!  What about the joy of it all?  No wonder Jesus refused to think of this world as a “vale of tears”.  He thought of it as a the birthplace of the soul, the “vale of soul making”.  (149:5.5)

    And even though we walk in this valley among the shadows, it is God who is with us shining his brilliant light, casting shadows on all of those momentarily sparkly objects which try to draw our attention.  All we need is the experience of recognizing the difference and choosing it.  That’s all . . . that’s all we have to do.  It’s not an impossible or onerous task at all.  Why do people insist on making it seem like such a big deal to do God’s will, to pick reality over the fake; or worse, to whine and cry about having to choose at all, to wish for someone to come and do the choosing, or to make the world a perfect place over night making choice easier? It’s baffling.  The experience of choosing and evolving a love-saturated soul should be the delight of every human being.  It’s such a precious treasure; Jesus and the whole cosmos agrees.

     

    #10481
    Bradly
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    A little text in support of the topic and introduction:

    (1216.4) 111:1.3 Material mind is the arena in which human personalities live, are self-conscious, make decisions, choose God or forsake him, eternalize or destroy themselves.

    (1216.5) 111:1.4 Material evolution has provided you a life machine, your body; the Father himself has endowed you with the purest spirit reality known in the universe, your Thought Adjuster. But into your hands, subject to your own decisions, has been given mind, and it is by mind that you live or die. It is within this mind and with this mind that you make those moral decisions which enable you to achieve Adjusterlikeness, and that is Godlikeness.

    (1216.6) 111:1.5 Mortal mind is a temporary intellect system loaned to human beings for use during a material lifetime, and as they use this mind, they are either accepting or rejecting the potential of eternal existence. Mind is about all you have of universe reality that is subject to your will, and the soul — the morontia self — will faithfully portray the harvest of the temporal decisions which the mortal self is making. Human consciousness rests gently upon the electrochemical mechanism below and delicately touches the spirit-morontia energy system above. Of neither of these two systems is the human being ever completely conscious in his mortal life; therefore must he work in mind, of which he is conscious. And it is not so much what mind comprehends as what mind desires to comprehend that insures survival; it is not so much what mind is like as what mind is striving to be like that constitutes spirit identification. It is not so much that man is conscious of God as that man yearns for God that results in universe ascension. What you are today is not so important as what you are becoming day by day and in eternity.

    (1217.1) 111:1.6 Mind is the cosmic instrument on which the human will can play the discords of destruction, or upon which this same human will can bring forth the exquisite melodies of God identification and consequent eternal survival. The Adjuster bestowed upon man is, in the last analysis, impervious to evil and incapable of sin, but mortal mind can actually be twisted, distorted, and rendered evil and ugly by the sinful machinations of a perverse and self-seeking human will. Likewise can this mind be made noble, beautiful, true, and good — actually great — in accordance with the spirit-illuminated will of a God-knowing human being.

    :good:

    #10484
    Bonita
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    (1217.1) 111:1.6 Mind is the cosmic instrument on which the human will can play the discords of destruction, or upon which this same human will can bring forth the exquisite melodies of God identification and consequent eternal survival. The Adjuster bestowed upon man is, in the last analysis, impervious to evil and incapable of sin, but mortal mind can actually be twisted, distorted, and rendered evil and ugly by the sinful machinations of a perverse and self-seeking human will. Likewise can this mind be made noble, beautiful, true, and good — actually great — in accordance with the spirit-illuminated will of a God-knowing human being.

    This quote offered by Bradly says that the mortal mind can become twisted, distorted, evil and ugly. But what about the soul?  Is it possible for the soul to become twisted, distorted, evil and ugly?

     

    #10486
    Bradly
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    Indeed NOT!!  (as you know)  The soul cannot become so itself as it only contains that truth, beauty, goodness, love, wisdom, relationship – experiences and realizations which are of eternal VALUEs.  This does NOT make the soul perfect but it is a vessel to acquire, organize, and utilize only the best and most worthy of mortal mind choices and experiences for the morontia adventure to come….so soul is and remains untainted during its tenure.  Once awakened on the shores of Mansonia, then the mind is still able to have confusions and make choices of error.  Perfecting continues.  So the soul is not  perfect, but it is untainted.

    (1237.1) 112:6.9 The soul of survival value faithfully reflects both the qualitative and the quantitative actions and motivations of the material intellect, the former seat of the identity of selfhood. In the choosing of truth, beauty, and goodness, the mortal mind enters upon its premorontia universe career under the tutelage of the seven adjutant mind-spirits unified under the direction of the spirit of wisdom. Subsequently, upon the completion of the seven circles of premorontia attainment, the superimposition of the endowment of morontia mind upon adjutant mind initiates the prespiritual or morontia career of local universe progression.

    (1237.2) 112:6.10 When a creature leaves his native planet, he leaves the adjutant ministry behind and becomes solely dependent on morontia intellect. When an ascender leaves the local universe, he has attained the spiritual level of existence, having passed beyond the morontia level. This newly appearing spirit entity then becomes attuned to the direct ministry of the cosmic mind of Orvonton.

    #10488
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    nelsong
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    Book says that nothing of value is ever lost.

    when we loose our physical bodies the things of value that we aquired in life must be a big part of the soul

    just thinking about this makes on reflect on what experiences we have in life that are of survival or real value.

    pharos tomb has much to say about real value

    #10492
    Bonita
    Bonita
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    So the soul is not  perfect, but it is untainted.

    I agree that the soul that reawakens on the mansion worlds only contains earned meanings of supreme values.  But what about here on earth?  Can an embryonic soul become darkened by a slothful animal mind?   We know that there are souls who sit in darkness and souls who die because of that darkness.  Even an untainted soul can starve to death from lack of spiritual light.

    #10495
    Bradly
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    This is true in its way I think.  I doubt there is a shriveling or shrinking but many a soul has far less “content” of righteous choice, intent, and experience than is our inherent potential.  And Jesus did say we move forward or backward every day by every choice….does that relate to soul content?  I don’t think so.  I think its about circle progress in the spirit.  The soul receives all that is worthy…and only that.  But the mind can definitely move “away” from where it once was in relation to spirit….become tainted, distorted, and less worthy than it once was perhaps.

    However, the lack of truth and experience deposited into soul also means there is no great integration of wisdom upon which to draw upon either.

    #10496
    Bonita
    Bonita
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    However, the lack of truth and experience deposited into soul also means there is no great integration of wisdom upon which to draw upon either.

    The lack of experience contributing to soul growth must result in a decline in the rate of  “change”.  And we know that if “change” ceases, the soul ceases to exist.

    112:0.15 The Adjuster and the personality are changeless; the relationship between them (in the soul) is nothing but change, continuing evolution; and if this change (growth) ceased, the soul would cease

    Isn’t this darkness of the soul, the problem Judas encountered?  Living up to the light requires experience.

    139:12.8 But when light is not honestly received and lived up to, it tends to become darkness within the soul.

    #10501
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    TUB
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    Regarding decision. What is the difference between a wholehearted decision and a half-hearted decision? What is the heart? Why are 6 year olds able to make wholehearted moral choices? Is every human being capable of making a wholehearted choice? What happens when mind is not functioning normally in a human being can they even make a wholehearted decision?  According to TUB half-hearted efforts are unavailing. So is what we call “decision” and choice” actually a wholehearted decision and choice or are they usually half-hearted decisions and choices?

    I have lots of thoughts on these topics, but I don’t feel like engaging in a weeks long debate so I will just throw out some questions, and leave it at that in hopes that these questions stimulate some deep thinking.

    #10517
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    nelsong
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    So interesting to read these attributes that characterize the nature of the Soul.

    It is even more fascinating to consider the parallels that can be drawn to the nature of the Supreme.

    The revelators make a point of talking about this in paper 117 parts 3 and 4 i think

    #10553
    Bonita
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    A wholehearted decision is a sincere decision.  The keys to the kingdom are sincerity, sincerity and more sincerity.  Progress in the kingdom requires decisions, decisions and more decisions.

    39:4.14 The keys of the kingdom of heaven are: sincerity, more sincerity, and more sincerity. All men have these keys. Men use them — advance in spirit status — by decisions, by more decisions, and by more decisions. The highest moral choice is the choice of the highest possible value, and always — in any sphere, in all of them — this is to choose to do the will of God. If man thus chooses, he is great, though he be the humblest citizen of Jerusem or even the least of mortals on Urantia.

    The question then becomes: What is sincerity?  Sincerity has to do with perfection of purpose, divinity of desire and steadfastness of faith.  Sincerity requires acting with the highest motivations one is capable of, accompanied by a desire for, and faith in, the discovery of even higher motivations.  Such sincerity can only come with an inner assurance of the presence of God within one’s soul accompanied by undoubting confidence in his guidance.

    A wholehearted decision is a decision without doubt.  Doubt indicates partial allegiance and inner conflict is a symptom of divided loyalty.  Partial and divided loyalty is insincere and NOT wholehearted.  Likewise, decisions based entirely on emotions or altered states of consciousness are partial, insincere and false.  Wholehearted decisions involve the whole self  resulting in a display of loyalty to a trifold reality with a trifold response: material (causal), mindal (moral) and spiritual.

    #10554
    Bonita
    Bonita
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    It is even more fascinating to consider the parallels that can be drawn to the nature of the Supreme.

    Agreed.  And the psychic circles have to do with progressive consciousness of a relationship between the soul and the Supreme Being.

    110:6.16 Perhaps these psychic circles of mortal progression would be better denominated cosmic levels — actual meaning grasps and value realizations of progressive approach to the morontia consciousness of initial relationship of the evolutionary soul with the emerging Supreme Being.

    #10555
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    nelsong
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    Trying to recall: who’s creation is the Soul?

    Or is it just a consequence of tension created by difference between mind and Adjuster??

    #10559
    Bonita
    Bonita
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    Trying to recall: who’s creation is the Soul?

    It’s a JOINT creation of the material mind and the indwelling Adjuster.  (5:2.5; 86:5.2; 111:2.10; 117:5.3; 132:3.4)

    #10560
    Bonita
    Bonita
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    Or is it just a consequence of tension created by difference between mind and Adjuster??

    This is a great question.  Tension exists  wherever and whenever there is a discernible differential created by the contrast between divinity and the lack, or imperfection, of divinity.  Everything and everyone in the cosmos is moving toward perfection of divinity status.  We humans are living at the point where there is the widest differential between the two, and because of this, we have the greatest amount of help.

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