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    Mara
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    TUB says that we need to learn how to distinguish between what has value and what is value.

    I’ve been mulling over your question.  I’m thinking off the top of my head.  Our origin is value. Our history has value. Our destiny is value.

    Life and what you do with with what you’ve got, as well as what you think about what you’ve got, as well as how you actually live in relation to God and in relation to your fellows creates your personal history.  Your personal history has value and contributes more or less to our planetary history and to the evolution of the Supreme Being to the degree you are spiritually fruitful – not only in relation to your friends and family, but to the complete strangers you personally encounter in your daily life.  History has value, because it is living and moving.  You create your personal history.  It is not static. Day by day you and I are becoming more than what we were as we try out new ways to be spiritually fruitful.  As the part, so the whole.

    That which is value and that which has value are dynamically linked in reality.

    ORIGIN        HISTORY        DESTINY

    FACT       MEANING        VALUE

    FACT        IDEA        RELATION

    SCIENCE        PHILOSOPHY        TRUTH

    REASON       WISDOM        FAITH

    PHYSICAL REALITY        INTELLECTUAL REALITY        SPIRITUAL REALITY

    THING         MEANING         VALUE

     

    I hope my thinking isn’t  too far out in the ozone.  I admit I haven’t thought this through thoroughly.  But I think there is a Venn diagram in there to show how things integrate and overlap personally in personality and cosmically in the plans and purposes of our Universal Father who is our origin.

     

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    nelsong
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    Thing, meaning, value

    science, philosophy, religion

    value always related to religion

    religion has value

    persons are religious

    persons have value

    the fruits of religious living have value

     

    #8838
    Mara
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    . . . the fruits of religious living have value

    Yes, the acts of the fruit bearing  way of life are consequential personally and the consequences of such habits of living belong to God.

    2054.3)193:2.2“Peace be upon you. You rejoice to know that the Son of Man has risen from the dead because you thereby know that you and your brethren shall also survive mortal death. But such survival is dependent on your having been previously born of the spirit of truth-seeking and God-finding. The bread of life and the water thereof are given only to those who hunger for truth and thirst for righteousness — for God. The fact that the dead rise is not the gospel of the kingdom. These great truths and these universe facts are all related to this gospel in that they are a part of the result of believing the good news and are embraced in the subsequent experience of those who, by faith, become, in deed and in truth, the everlasting sons of the eternal God. My Father sent me into the world to proclaim this salvation of sonship to all men. And so send I you abroad to preach this salvation of sonship. Salvation is the free gift of God, but those who are born of the spirit will immediately begin to show forth the fruits of the spirit in loving service to their fellow creatures. And the fruits of the divine spirit which are yielded in the lives of spirit-born and God-knowing mortals are: loving service, unselfish devotion, courageous loyalty, sincere fairness, enlightened honesty, undying hope, confiding trust, merciful ministry, unfailing goodness, forgiving tolerance, and enduring peace. If professed believers bear not these fruits of the divine spirit in their lives, they are dead; the Spirit of Truth is not in them; they are useless branches on the living vine, and they soon will be taken away. My Father requires of the children of faith that they bear much spirit fruit. If, therefore, you are not fruitful, he will dig about your roots and cut away your unfruitful branches. Increasingly, must you yield the fruits of the spirit as you progress heavenward in the kingdom of God. You may enter the kingdom as a child, but the Father requires that you grow up, by grace, to the full stature of spiritual adulthood. And when you go abroad to tell all nations the good news of this gospel, I will go before you, and my Spirit of Truth shall abide in your hearts. My peace I leave with you.”

    Such fruits have value.  A child of God must grow up, by grace, to the full stature of spiritual adulthood, as they say in the reference above. Spiritual growth has value. In mansonia we will look back during times of reversion to see from whence we came and (I imagine) the spiritual distance we traveled.

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