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    emanny3003
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    I think what the quote is telling us is that humans have varying capacities for receptivity.

    Stop concerning yourselves with your status in the Universe. The apostles were very concerned so you are in good company.

    Come to sit at the table and have no concern for the place settings and name cards.

    #13746
    Bonita
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    Mara wrote: A person must experience truth-hunger.
    You mean in order to enlarge their capacity of receptivity?  I agree, but sometimes not everyone knows what truth-hunger is.  I think any sincere person looking for help with life’s problems counts as one being hungry for truth, even they might not call it truth.  It says in the quote below that any earnest and longing prayer (supplication) results in expanding the soul’s capacity for receptivity.  Prayers are a way of asking for help, and even the ill-advised prayer has the potential to enlarge capacity.
    144:4.2 The earnest and longing repetition of any petition, when such a prayer is the sincere expression of a child of God and is uttered in faith, no matter how ill-advised or impossible of direct answer, never fails to expand the soul’s capacity for spiritual receptivity.
    #13749
    Bradly
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    I do not need to look at any quote to know truth. You know not of MY spiritual insight but I can tell you that it takes but an ‘instant’ to realize God the Father. The brotherhood of man is realized in the same instant. Time is not a factor. Ask our Father if time factors into his Fatherhood.

    Me here:  While it takes but a moment to “find” or “contact” God within, there is a long time to come before we “realize” Father according to his Divine plan – the journey of time barely has begun upon our fusion:

    (63.7) 5:1.9 The fact that vast time is involved in the attainment of God makes the presence and personality of the Infinite none the less real. Your ascension is a part of the circuit of the seven superuniverses, and though you swing around it countless times, you may expect, in spirit and in status, to be ever swinging inward. You can depend upon being translated from sphere to sphere, from the outer circuits ever nearer the inner center, and some day, doubt not, you shall stand in the divine and central presence and see him, figuratively speaking, face to face. It is a question of the attainment of actual and literal spiritual levels; and these spiritual levels are attainable by any being who has been indwelt by a Mystery Monitor, and who has subsequently eternally fused with that Thought Adjuster.

    (62.3) 5:1.1 The inability of the finite creature to approach the infinite Father is inherent, not in the Father’s aloofness, but in the finiteness and material limitations of created beings. The magnitude of the spiritual difference between the highest personality of universe existence and the lower groups of created intelligences is inconceivable. Were it possible for the lower orders of intelligence to be transported instantly into the presence of the Father himself, they would not know they were there. They would there be just as oblivious of the presence of the Universal Father as where they now are. There is a long, long road ahead of mortal man before he can consistently and within the realms of possibility ask for safe conduct into the Paradise presence of the Universal Father. Spiritually, man must be translated many times before he can attain a plane that will yield the spiritual vision which will enable him to see even any one of the Seven Master Spirits.

    (62.4) 5:1.2 Our Father is not in hiding; he is not in arbitrary seclusion. He has mobilized the resources of divine wisdom in a never-ending effort to reveal himself to the children of his universal domains. There is an infinite grandeur and an inexpressible generosity connected with the majesty of his love which causes him to yearn for the association of every created being who can comprehend, love, or approach him; and it is, therefore, the limitations inherent in you, inseparable from your finite personality and material existence, that determine the time and place and circumstances in which you may achieve the goal of the journey of mortal ascension and stand in the presence of the Father at the center of all things.

    (63.1) 5:1.3 Although the approach to the Paradise presence of the Father must await your attainment of the highest finite levels of spirit progression, you should rejoice in the recognition of the ever-present possibility of immediate communion with the bestowal spirit of the Father so intimately associated with your inner soul and your spiritualizing self.

     

    We have much education and experience to come to even graduate from our current tadpole status, perfection attainment requires much perfecting in time and space prior to our pure spirit experiences to come in our unique form as finaliters.  Or so we are told.  Some, in mortal form, do have a near instant moment of clarity and resolve while, we are told, others move far more slowly toward realization of the spirit within but progress is measured as much by direction as it is by distance.  Or so I think.

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    emanny3003
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    Me here:  While it takes but a moment to “find” or “contact” God within, there is a long time to come before we “realize” Father according to his Divine plan – the journey of time barely has begun upon our fusion:

    It takes eternity, Bradly. An instant is the eternal now. The journey is the establishment of constant contact with the eternal NOW. This is possible for any of us it we desire it more than time. The Divine plan is for those in time to accomplish what Jesus did in an instant at his baptism. Eternity is available to us NOW. What Jesus did we can do also.

    Sell everything you have. Read what Bonita said about this in “parables”

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    Bonita
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    Some, in mortal form, do have a near instant moment of clarity and resolve while, we are told, others move far more slowly toward realization of the spirit within but progress is measured as much by direction as it is by distance.  Or so I think.

    Moments of instant clarity do not equal perfection.  I agree that no matter how many instant moments a person has of clarity, perfection takes time, and for most of us it takes an enormous amount of time.  It took Jesus, a being who descended from perfection, thirty-one and one-half years to attain this level of perfection. (136:2.8)

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    emanny3003
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    Moments of instant clarity do not equal perfection.  I agree that no matter how many instant moments a person has of clarity, perfection takes time, and for most of us it takes an enormous amount of time.  It took Jesus, a being who descended from perfection, thirty-one and one-half years to attain this level of perfection. (136:2.8)

    I agree, but Jesus ‘realized’ that perfection at the ‘instant’ of baptism.

    #13838
    Bonita
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    Human perfection, on a scale that humans are capable of, is a function of the seven psychic circles.  It is a gradual REALIZATION of personality.  As we climb the psychic circles, are personalities become more REAL.  Jesus went through all seven circles before his baptism.  Even after attaining the first psychic circle he had more work to do, which is why he went off to spend six weeks on Mount Hermon with his Adjuster in order to finish the work of mastering his human mind.  It took five weeks for him to become assured of his divine nature and its ascendency over his human nature (transfer of dominance).  Even then, the final phase of his personality realization waited to be consummated at his baptism about four and a half months later.  But Jesus had realized his divinity months before his baptism.  He realized it on Mount Hermon.

    134:7.6 The indwelling Thought Adjuster now led Jesus to forsake the dwelling places of men and betake himself up to Mount Hermon that he might finish his work of mastering his human mind and complete the task of effecting his full consecration to the remainder of his lifework on earth.

    134:8.4 Jesus spent the last three weeks of August and the first three weeks of September on Mount Hermon. During these weeks he finished the mortal task of achieving the circles of mind-understanding and personality-control. Throughout this period of communion with his heavenly Father the indwelling Adjuster also completed the assigned services. The mortal goal of this earth creature was there attained. Only the final phase of mind and Adjuster attunement remained to be consummated.

    134:8.5 After more than five weeks of unbroken communion with his Paradise Father, Jesus became absolutely assured of his nature and of the certainty of his triumph over the material levels of time-space personality manifestation. He fully believed in, and did not hesitate to assert, the ascendancy of his divine nature over his human nature.

     

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    Mara
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    Jesus went through all seven circles before his baptism. Even after attaining the first psychic circle he had more work to do, which is why he went off to spend six weeks on Mount Hermon with his Adjuster in order to finish the work of mastering his human mind.

    A person can be God-knowing, yet be a seventh or sixth circler.   :-)

     110:6:16  These circle attainments are only relatively related to God-consciousness. A seventh or sixth circler can be almost as truly God-knowing — sonship conscious — as a second or first circler, but such lower circle beings are far less conscious of experiential relation to the Supreme Being, universe citizenship.

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    emanny3003
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    134:8.5 After more than five weeks of unbroken communion with his Paradise Father, Jesus became absolutely assured of his nature and of the certainty of his triumph over the material levels of time-space personality manifestation. He fully believed in, and did not hesitate to assert, the ascendancy of his divine nature over his human nature.

    I see the point you are making. The import of the INSTANT is that by definition, it is not a ‘happening’ because it resides outside of time itself.

    God resides outside of time and can only be realized in the instant. The thing to remember is that time is a succession of instants. God is realized in between time, not in time.

    Five weeks may have gone by for the Midwayer but no time elapsed for Jesus because in communion with the Father, he stood outside of time.

    #13877
    Mara
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    1:6:6   The more completely man understands himself and appreciates the personality values of his fellows, the more he will crave to know the Original Personality, and the more earnestly such a God-knowing human will strive to become like the Original Personality. You can argue over opinions about God, but experience with him and in him exists above and beyond all human controversy and mere intellectual logic. The God-knowing man describes his spiritual experiences, not to convince unbelievers, but for the edification and mutual satisfaction of believers.
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