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    nelsong
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    Can’t help but wonder if resurrection is the best available term for Jesus ascension to and beyond morontia. It implies bringing back to life.

    jesus was and is indestructible with exception of his physical body that was disposed of.

     

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    Mark Kurtz
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    Resurrection seems like the right term for emerging from human material existence.  Advancement career could be used for mortals whose divine plans include multiple awakenings from previous existence.  Ascension is appropriate for both Michael and mortals, but with him ascension is a return to the Father, as he was classed a descending Son of God.  Actually, we all resurrect from sleep until we reach that point  where the sleep of death (loss of consciousness) is required to move to a different sphere of life.  Jesus lived a material life, experienced death as we likely will, and arose by a special life continuance arrangement.  Resurrect is OK.

    2 cents worth

     

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    nelsong
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    Yeah but it is the physical body that dies. The soul and personality do not. Some get awakened from sleep at dispensation end while others do not sleep at all.

    you cannot resurect something if it does not die.

     

     

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    Richard E Warren
    Richard E Warren
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    I hear you, nelsong,

    To be accurate and precise it needs a qualifier, like ‘soul resurrection’, and/or ‘personality resurrection’.

     

     

    Richard E Warren

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    Mara
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    nelsong wrote:  Can’t help but wonder if resurrection is the. . . .

    It’s true his body wasn’t resurrected.

    189:1:7   1. His material or physical body was not a part of the resurrected personality. When Jesus came forth from the tomb, his body of flesh remained undisturbed in the sepulchre. He emerged from the burial tomb without moving the stones before the entrance and without disturbing the seals of Pilate.

    The Gospels state that after Jesus was crucified and lay in a tomb between Friday evening and Sunday morning, he rose, in body as well as in spirit, and appeared alive to his followers.  Until Jesus’ resurrection was fleshed out (no pun intended) in the UB account of it, the people of the world only know that his body disappeared and the seal of Pilate was unbroken.

     

    189:1:2 [#4]
    After the resurrected Jesus emerged from his burial tomb, the body of flesh in which he had lived and wrought on earth for almost thirty-six years was still lying there in the sepulchre niche, undisturbed and wrapped in the linen sheet, just as it had been laid to rest by Joseph and his associates on Friday afternoon. Neither was the stone before the entrance of the tomb in any way disturbed; the seal of Pilate was still unbroken; the soldiers were still on guard. The temple guards had been on continuous duty; the Roman guard had been changed at midnight. None of these watchers suspected that the object of their vigil had risen to a new and higher form of existence, and that the body which they were guarding was now a discarded outer covering which had no further connection with the delivered and resurrected morontia personality of Jesus.
    They do tell us this:
    30:4:15   The physical body of mortal flesh is not a part of the reassembly of the sleeping survivor; the physical body has returned to dust. The seraphim of assignment sponsors the new body, the morontia form, as the new life vehicle for the immortal soul and for the indwelling of the returned Adjuster. The Adjuster is the custodian of the spirit transcript of the mind of the sleeping survivor. The assigned seraphim is the keeper of the surviving identity — the immortal soul — as far as it has evolved. And when these two, the Adjuster and the seraphim, reunite their personality trusts, the new individual constitutes the resurrection of the old personality, the survival of the evolving morontia identity of the soul. Such a reassociation of soul and Adjuster is quite properly called a resurrection, a reassembly of personality factors; but even this does not entirely explain the reappearance of the surviving personality. Though you will probably never understand the fact of such an inexplicable transaction, you will sometime experientially know the truth of it if you do not reject the plan of mortal survival.
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