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    Bonita
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    Wasn’t Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed because the mob wanted to have sex with God’s angels who were visiting Lot?  Debauchery, lechery and sybaritism? (Just discovered that word and wanted to use it. Not sure if I used it right.  Had no idea it existed until today and will rapidly forget it tomorrow.)

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    André
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    G’day fellows,

    Fake news

    Fables/Legends/Confabulation/fodder

     

     

    The Judgment upon Sodom and Gomorrah

    Sodom and Gomorrah being destroyed in the background of Lucas van Leyden‘s 1520 painting Lot and his Daughters

    The story of the judgment of Sodom and Gomorrah is told in Genesis 18–19. Three men, thought by most commentators to have been angels appearing as men,<sup class=”noprint Inline-Template Template-Fact”>[citation needed] came to Abraham in the plains of Mamre. After the angels received the hospitality of Abraham and Sarah, the Lord revealed to Abraham that he would confirm what he had heard against Sodom and Gomorrah, “and because their sin is very grievous.”

    In response, Abraham inquired of the Lord if he would spare the city if 50 righteous people were found in it, to which the Lord agreed he would not destroy it for the sake of the righteous yet dwelling therein. Abraham then inquired of God for mercy at lower numbers (first 45, then 40, then 30, then 20, and finally at 10), with the Lord agreeing each time.<sup id=”cite_ref-18″ class=”reference”>[18] Two angels were sent to Sodom to investigate and were met by Abraham’s nephew Lot, who convinced the angels to lodge with him, and they ate with Lot.

    Genesis 19:4–5 described what followed, which confirmed its end:

    4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both young and old, all the people from every quarter.
    5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him: ‘Where are the men that came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.’

    (NRSV: know them, NIV: can have sex with them, NJB: can have intercourse with them).

    Sodom and Gomorrah from the Nuremberg Chronicle by Hartmann Schedel, 1493. Lot’s wife, already transformed into a salt pillar, is in the center.

    Lot refused to give his guests to the inhabitants of Sodom and, instead, offered them his two virgin daughters “which have not known man” and to “do ye to them as [is] good in your eyes”. However, they refused this offer, complained about this alien, namely Lot, judging them, and then came near to break down the door. Lot’s angelic guests rescued him and struck the men with blindness and they informed Lot of their mission to destroy the city. Then (not having found even 10 righteous people in the city), they commanded Lot to gather his family and leave. As they made their escape, one angel commanded Lot to “look not behind thee” (singular “thee”). However, as Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with brimstone and fire from the Lord, Lot’s wife looked back at the city, and she became a pillar of salt.

     

    sybaritism: devotion to sensual pleasures.sybarite, n.sybaritic, adj.
    #36208
    Rick Warren
    Rick Warren
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    G’day fellows,

    Fake news

    Fables/Legends/Confabulation/fodder

    The Judgment upon Sodom and Gomorrah

    Sodom and Gomorrah being destroyed in the background of Lucas van Leyden‘s 1520 painting Lot and his Daughters

    The story of the judgment of Sodom and Gomorrah is told in Genesis 18–19. Three men, thought by most commentators to have been angels appearing as men,<sup class=”noprint Inline-Template Template-Fact”>[citation needed] came to Abraham in the plains of Mamre. After the angels received the hospitality of Abraham and Sarah, the Lord revealed to Abraham that he would confirm what he had heard against Sodom and Gomorrah, “and because their sin is very grievous.” In response, Abraham inquired of the Lord if he would spare the city if 50 righteous people were found in it, to which the Lord agreed he would not destroy it for the sake of the righteous yet dwelling therein. Abraham then inquired of God for mercy at lower numbers (first 45, then 40, then 30, then 20, and finally at 10), with the Lord agreeing each time.<sup id=”cite_ref-18″ class=”reference”>[18] Two angels were sent to Sodom to investigate and were met by Abraham’s nephew Lot, who convinced the angels to lodge with him, and they ate with Lot. Genesis 19:4–5 described what followed, which confirmed its end:

    4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both young and old, all the people from every quarter. 5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him: ‘Where are the men that came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.’ (NRSV: know them, NIV: can have sex with them, NJB: can have intercourse with them).

    Sodom and Gomorrah from the Nuremberg Chronicle by Hartmann Schedel, 1493. Lot’s wife, already transformed into a salt pillar, is in the center.

    Lot refused to give his guests to the inhabitants of Sodom and, instead, offered them his two virgin daughters “which have not known man” and to “do ye to them as [is] good in your eyes”. However, they refused this offer, complained about this alien, namely Lot, judging them, and then came near to break down the door. Lot’s angelic guests rescued him and struck the men with blindness and they informed Lot of their mission to destroy the city. Then (not having found even 10 righteous people in the city), they commanded Lot to gather his family and leave. As they made their escape, one angel commanded Lot to “look not behind thee” (singular “thee”). However, as Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with brimstone and fire from the Lord, Lot’s wife looked back at the city, and she became a pillar of salt.

    sybaritism: devotion to sensual pleasures.sybarite, n.sybaritic, adj.
    Thank you Andre, for setting the record straight on the crooked record. And the definition of sybaritic… Now back to that tall stack of syrupy pancakes.
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    #36853
    Rick Warren
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    Two more theories, the first one is from that oft quoted historian Josephus:

    Instead of both fire and brimstone, Josephus has only lightning as the cause of the fire that destroyed Sodom: “God then cast a thunderbolt upon the city, and set it on fire, with its inhabitants; and laid waste the country with the like burning, as I formerly said when I wrote The Jewish War.”

    Certain skeptics of the biblical account have theorized that, provided that the cities existed at all, they might have been destroyed by natural disaster. One such idea is that the Dead Sea was devastated by an earthquake between 2100 and 1900 BCE. This might have unleashed showers of steaming tar. It is possible that the towns were destroyed by an earthquake, especially if they lay along a major fault such as the Jordan Rift Valley. There is a lack of contemporary accounts of seismic activity within the necessary timeframe, however, to corroborate this theory.

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