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    Bonita
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    We are told early in the Foreword that ” . . .the Father followed the expression of his thought into the word of his Son.” (0:11.1) We are also told that if John had been referring to the Eternal Son, what he wrote about the Word, is correct.

    “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things were made by him, and without him was not anything made that was made.” (6:1.3; John 1:1)

    The Word is the expression, or interpretation, of the Father’s thought. (8:3.1; 8:4.1)  The Conjoint Actor is the execution of that expressed divine thought.(8:3.1) The Thought-God, Word-God and Action-God all exist. (8:0.1) The Divine Sons are the word of God. (10:3.3) It seems to me that the role of the Word is a fundamental part of reality.

    #13247
    Mara
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    As I read the words on my monitor this morning, I thought wow! we need a topic on the Word, as in the Word of God and so on.  In the beginning-beginning, so to speak, was the thought.  Thought precedes word does it not?

    #13248
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    Keryn
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    Great topic! I look forward to following this discussion. In paper 2, “The Nature of God”, we find this quote:

    (33.2) 2:0.2 The nature of God can be studied in a revelation of supreme ideas, the divine character can be envisaged as a portrayal of supernal ideals, but the most enlightening and spiritually edifying of all revelations of the divine nature is to be found in the comprehension of the religious life of Jesus of Nazareth, both before and after his attainment of full consciousness of divinity. If the incarnated life of Michael is taken as the background of the revelation of God to man, we may attempt to put in human word symbols certain ideas and ideals concerning the divine nature which may possibly contribute to a further illumination and unification of the human concept of the nature and the character of the personality of the Universal Father.

    #13250
    Bonita
    Bonita
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    Mara wrote: Thought precedes word does it not?

    Yes indeed it does.  Words are the way our mind interprets and then communicates thought.  Words are an indication and expression of one’s thoughts and hence a revelation of the state of one’s mind.  Words are important.

    God’s thoughts are divine, but alone as the hypothetical I AM, there was no expression or communication of those divine thoughts.  They were theoretically isolated until the thought was shared and became the word.  The Eternal Son is the perfect divine expression of the first infinite and absolute thought of the Father.(8:3.1)  God is the initiating thought and the Son is the expressionful word.(6:8.3)

    The Sons of the Eternal Son are the living word, and our Creator Son is the word made flesh.

     

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    nelsong
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    And words are a vane attempt to explain the thought.

    The thought is a best effort to help all post word beings try to conceptualize infinity – pre word and everything that follows.

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    emanny3003
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    If the incarnated life of Michael is taken as the background of the revelation of God to man, we may attempt to put in human word symbols certain ideas and ideals concerning the divine nature which may possibly contribute to a further illumination and unification of the human concept of the nature and the character of the personality of the Universal Father.(2:.02)

    As humans we need word symbols, and note that in the quote above the key words are “attempt” and “human concept”. The Word of God is the Son and cannot be symbolized. There is no language for it. It is a Spirit relationship.

    God cannot be a symbol of Himself and therefore the Son is the interpreter of the Creative Thought. The Son is Spirit.

    The Sons of the Eternal Son are the living word, and our Creator Son is the word made flesh.

    Lets clarify LIVING Word, with a capital W, as not indicative of a symbol. Symbols are not living. The Son is a living interpreter of the Father, and The Spirit “acts” on that interpretation. The Creator Son is the “Word” incarnate. In order to incarnate, the “action” of the Third Source and Center is at play. The “flesh” of the human Jesus is the animation of the Father’s Thought and the Son’s Interpretation, made “flesh” by the act of The Spirit.

    #13318
    Bonita
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    At the last supper Jesus said, “The word of the Father, as revealed in the Son, is indeed the bread of life.” (179:5.3) The Son interprets and reveals the thoughts of the Father to his creatures.  Jesus is known as The Word; the Word made flesh.

    The Word in Greek is logos, in Aramaic memra. Both were used to describe creation.  The universe was brought into existence by the power of God’s word.  But the Greek word logos also has a more philosophical meaning representing the ordering principle for the universe.  In a sense, the logos is equivalent to divine logic which gives order to the universe.  The Greek Stoics expanded upon that idea, teaching that the logos permeated all reality, including each individual.  The logos within each person provides the capacity for thought to come into harmony with the divine universe.  They asserted that when an individual turns away from the logos, they lose control over their thoughts; they become governed by passions and emotions, eventually becoming bestial in behavior.

     

    #13321
    Mara
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    And words are a vane attempt to explain the thought.

    . . . as in feelings that lie too deep for words:

    99:5:9   Primitive man made little effort to put his religious convictions into words. His religion was danced out rather than thought out. Modern men have thought out many creeds and created many tests of religious faith. Future religionists must live out their religion, dedicate themselves to the wholehearted service of the brotherhood of man. It is high time that man had a religious experience so personal and so sublime that it could be realized and expressed only by “feelings that lie too deep for words.”
    #13323
    Bonita
    Bonita
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    . . . as in feelings that lie too deep for words:

    Great point Mara.  It brings to mind being told that it is our thoughts which guide us Godward.  If the Father is the first divine thought, then that makes sense.  And the fact that he comes to us as a Thought Adjuster also makes great sense.

    Then, we also know that the Spirit of Truth takes God’s thought and interprets it for us as word, in such a way as to reveal the deeper meanings and values within God’s thought as it pertains to us directly.

    This is what they mean by discovery, recognition, interpretation and choice.  We act upon the thought which has been revealed to us through the word.  And that is the same as doing God’s will.

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    emanny3003
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    99:5:9   Primitive man made little effort to put his religious convictions into words. His religion was danced out rather than thought out.

    I do not believe that this Melchizedek author understands dance and was probably never incarnated. Dance is an expression of thought that is beyond words.

    Michael’s bestowal was necessary for him to understand and experience the physical body and its reactions to emotions and rhythms.

    #13331
    Mara
    Mara
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    This is what they mean by discovery, recognition, interpretation and choice.

    See  196:3:10

    :-)

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    emanny3003
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    See  196:3:10

    What are YOUR thoughts on 196:3.10?

    #13339
    Bonita
    Bonita
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    Thanks Mara for including the link to the quote I referenced.  I had figured that everyone has heard me say that so many times already that I didn’t need to reference it.  But obviously, not everyone has read it, so thanks.

    #13340
    Mara
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    106:9:11   Sooner or later all universe personalities begin to realize that the final quest of eternity is the endless exploration of infinity, the never-ending voyage of discovery into the absoluteness of the First Source and Center. Sooner or later we all become aware that all creature growth is proportional to Father identification. We arrive at the understanding that living the will of God is the eternal passport to the endless possibility of infinity itself. Mortals will sometime realize that success in the quest of the Infinite is directly proportional to the achievement of Fatherlikeness, and that in this universe age the realities of the Father are revealed within the qualities of divinity. And these qualities of divinity are personally appropriated by universe creatures in the experience of living divinely, and to live divinely means actually to live the will of God.
    #13341
    Mara
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    2:7:6   Intellectual self-consciousness can discover the beauty of truth, its spiritual quality, not only by the philosophic consistency of its concepts, but more certainly and surely by the unerring response of the ever-present Spirit of Truth. Happiness ensues from the recognition of truth because it can be acted out; it can be lived. Disappointment and sorrow attend upon error because, not being a reality, it cannot be realized in experience. Divine truth is best known by its spiritual flavor.
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